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|Mar-03-05|| ||arielbekarov: Sorry <tanginamo> and <sharpnova> !|
I see that you have been giving good advices as well regarding Junior and Shredder.
If I missed someone ; THANKS !
|Mar-03-05|| ||lostemperor: My prediction yesterday of this game was:
Kasparov-Leko 1/2-1/2 in 31 moves. Heheheh.
XXII Torneo Ciudad de Linares (2005)
Adams Topalov 1/2 in 51 moves; was 1/2 in 48 moves
Vallejo-Kasimdzanov 1/2 in 38 moves became 1-0 in 60. I seriously doubt this last prediction and felt Vallejo would win also in accordance to my final standing prediction. But I thought perhaps Kasimdzanov would pull a stunt again :).
|Mar-03-05|| ||Gypsy: There were several ways to try to convert the slight edge White had towards the end. My favorite alternatives ideas were 26.Bf2 and 27.Rh7+. There probably is no forcing path to a win and, despite his advantage, White still has to earn the point somewhere in play. Such is the aim of 26.Bf2. |
|Mar-03-05|| ||euripides: The game hangs on the K+P ending that could be reachd in various lines, and specifically on two blocked outflanking possibilities. If Black's king gets to the 5th rank on the king's side then the opposition does not help White because with a white king on g3 and a black king on g5, ...Kh5 is fine for Black as White's king cannot move to f4. Even if White gets the oppostiion further up the board, the weak e4 pawn prevents the 8th-rank outflanking manoeuvre White could oherwise play.
Thus e.g. after 25 g4 Black can probably hold by 25...Kd7 26 g5 Ke7 27 gf Nxf6 28 Rxf6 Rxf6 29 Bxf6 Kxf6 30 Kg2 Kg5 (Black could also hold the opposition here with Kg6). Also, thanks to the weak pawn on e4, 25...Nh6 26 Rxf6 Rxf6 27 Bxf6 Nxg4 28 Bg5 Kd7 29 Kg2 Ke6 30 Kg3 Nf6 31 Bxf6 Kxf6 32 Kh4 is drawn despite White having the opposition on the 4th rank and a spare tempo on the Q-side: 32....Kg6 33 Kg4 Kf6 35 Kh5 Kf7 36 Kh6 Kf6 37 c3 a6 38 b3 b6 39 a3 a5 40 a4 (b4 a4) Kf7 41 Kh7 Kf6 and White cannot outflank by 42 Kg8 because 42..Kg5 then wins for Black.|
After 25...Rf7 26 Kg2 Rg7 27 Kf3 Rg6 28 g5 fg 29 Rxg5 Rxg5 30 Bxg5 Black's king will be in a worse position.
These aren't computer checked but suggest that White did not have a win.
TWIC says that Leko had been calculating similar king and pawn endings as early as move 18; the line they give seems to involve an attempted Q-side breakthrough by White but it comes to nothing.
|Mar-04-05|| ||coffee monster: <ughaibu> Like <Dick Brain> said, he was playing almost instantly up to that point. Furthermore 18.Be3 is quite a provacative and complicated move, it's of course possible that Kasparov calculated all the possibilities during the time Leko was thinking, but I think it more likely Kasparov was in his home preparation. |
|Mar-04-05|| ||ughaibu: Dont you think Leko's moving his knight from c6 to g8 would be a strange thing to have prepared against? Maybe Kasparov just didn't think there were many moves worth considering so played quickly. |
|Mar-05-05|| ||coffee monster: <ughaibu> We'll never know for sure and I'm a Kasparov fan so perhaps I overestimate his opening preperation. For arguments sake though, if you look at the games listed after 9.0-0 you'll see this has been a very topical line over recent years with a few games involving Leko. Note also that when they met at Linares last year they played a very similar game Kasparov vs Leko, 2004 where Kasparov failed to make any headway, so it makes sense that Kasparov could have heavily analysed these lines. As you point out Kasparov's 10.f4 is a novelty so it also makes sense that he would have considered what chances he would have of playing f5 and f6. After 13.f6, 13...gxf6 14.Nd5 is logical and then Leko has two good moves 14...f5 and 14...Ne7. Once Leko chose 14...Ne7 and Kasparov replied 15.Nxf6+ the continuation 15...Nxf6 16.Rxf6 Ng8 17.Rf5 Qxh4 is to be expected as they are all best moves by some margin, so I think it's very possible Kasparov could have reached this point at home. Regardless of whether that's correct I still think 18...Qxe4 would have made for a more interesting game. |
|May-07-05|| ||Orbitkind: Leko is one boring ***.|
|May-07-05|| ||aw1988: Thanks for sharing.|
|May-07-05|| ||iron maiden: Boring? This game is a great battle, a lot of creative effort by both sides. Some people just look at the score of the game and complain.|
|May-07-05|| ||you vs yourself: If <acirce> liked it, it should be good:) where's acirce anyway? I missed him:(|
|Jun-13-05|| ||fgh: Oh, how I wish to put <OrbitKind> on my ignore list... But I will keep reading his useless posts for a while :-)|
|Jun-14-05|| ||iron maiden: <fgh>, why bother?|
|Jun-14-05|| ||fgh: <iron maiden>: Because it's funny!|
|May-17-06|| ||spirit: if 18...Qxe4 what happens???|
|May-17-06|| ||WannaBe: <spirit> Shredder 9 gives this line:|
19. Qxd6 Qxe3+ 20. Kh1 f6 21. Qe6+ Ne7 22. Qxf7 Rh6 23. Qf7+ Kd7 =0.08
|May-18-06|| ||spirit: <WannaBe> its like i'm missing something... if 18...Qxe4 then i don't see 19.Qxd6 as playable because of 19...Qxf5|
|May-18-06|| ||WannaBe: <spirit> in your line, 18...Qxe4 19. Qxd6 Qxf5 would have a position like this:|
click for larger view
From this point, Shredder gives this line...
20. Bxc5 Qg4 21. Qf8+ Kd7 22. Qxa8 Kc7 23. Bxa7 f6 24. Qb8+ Kd7 (4.18)
|May-18-06|| ||fgh: <WannaBe>: It seems that black is winning in that position :-)|
|May-18-06|| ||WannaBe: <fgh> I'm getting Shredder 10 in a few weeks. Maybe it can do better. =)|
Black does seem to be winning, but the King side N and R are not developed. Maybe software does not count those or take those into considerations?
|May-20-06|| ||fgh: <WannaBe>: I mean that white has only 1 pawn :-)|
|May-20-06|| ||spirit: <WannaBe> i agree with <fgh> black really seems to have the upper hand here...or what do you think?|
|May-20-06|| ||WannaBe: Ah, oh... yeah... my picture got black pawns in white pawns' position, and 4 of them are ready to be Queened... LOL. |
Boy I'm losing it, took me days to see what you meant. =)
|May-21-06|| ||spirit: 2 days...to be precise ;=)|
|Jul-15-06|| ||MagnaPsygnosis: Why 14. ... Ne7?!
I dont understand... that is not Leko.
(Even tough he would have lost anyway.)
Dont get me wrong... if anybody is World Heavyweight Chess Champion Quality it is Leko... but he is no KASPAROV
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