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|Mar-10-05|| ||notyetagm: He was lucky against Adams and unlucky against Leko. My point is that these things tend to even out so Topy deserved what he got, equal first. |
|Mar-10-05|| ||acirce: No, you can't blame your own shortcomings on "bad luck". Your own blunders are your own fault. |
|Mar-10-05|| ||alexandrovm: no, Kasparov won Linares 2005 :) And he deserves it. Topalov also deserves it, to be second to Kasparov |
|Mar-10-05|| ||Kingdumb: For anyone interested in how this disaster for Kaspy plays out and why he is lost, here's the last 19 moves. Please note that move 1 is blacks 30th move.|
1. ...dxe4 2.dxe4 2. e5 3.dxe5 3. Kxe5 4.Kf3 4. Ke6 5.Kf4 5. Kf6 6.e5 6. Kf7
7.Ke4 7. Ke6 8.g4 8. Kd7 9.Kd5 9. Ke7 10.e6 10. Ke8 11.Kd6 11. Kd8 12.e7
12. Ke8 13.Ke6 13. h5 14.g5 14. a6 15.a3 15. a5 16.bxa5 16. b4 17.a6 17. bxa3
18.a7 18. a2 19.a8=Q 1-0
|Mar-10-05|| ||euripides: I think Gazza will be upset. 21...Nxd4 22 Qxf6 gf 23 cd Rc8 looked OK for Black. So he must have been sure that the K+P ending was drawn. Transitions to the ending are a critical discriminator at all levels of chess, and he will hate screwing this one up. |
|Mar-10-05|| ||AgentRgent: <Chris00nj> Driving to lunch I was honking my horn and yelling Nh4! out the window!!! ;-) |
|Mar-10-05|| ||reeskamp: Kasparov is the winner because he scored better with black (3x) compared with Topalov (1x) |
|Mar-10-05|| ||euripides: <reeskamp> welcome to the site ! not Hans, by any chance ? |
|Mar-10-05|| ||ranchogrande: making either Kaspy or Topa the (sole)
winner is kind of sick ,to me.
Let them share - no big deal in that -as when I look at the crosstable they both performed the same "bad" and "good".(E.g: loosing to nr. 6 is no bigger deal than beating nr. 2).
And in the overall stands : Dont count
luck in , as this is more for the innocent eye - than reflecting the battlefield on the 64 squares.
|Mar-10-05|| ||alexandrovm: <ranchograde> it's just the Linares result, Kasparov first, Leko second. Nobody is making noone a sole winner :) |
|Mar-10-05|| ||ranchogrande: sounds nice<alexandrown> but I dont fully understand.Could you please add some more? Sound youve got some good points in here..! |
|Mar-10-05|| ||BrotherJed: I think the Tiebreak should default to head to head match-ups, no one would argue who the clear winner is then. The good thing here is the official start to the Topalov Kasparov rivalry which should proove to be highly entertaining. Kudos to both players, I don't know who is better all around (I think I vote Kasparov) but they are both clearly the players to beat for the rest of the pack. |
|Mar-10-05|| ||sharpnova: kasparov is great against humans..
i think kramnik would do better against computers though. same for leko
|Mar-10-05|| ||alexandrovm: ups, I meant Topalov, sorry for the mistake. Anyhow Kasparov retired, it doesn't matter any more :(
|Mar-10-05|| ||notsodeepthought: BrotherJed> <Official start to the Topalov-Kasparov rivalry>? More like the official end - Kasparov has just announced his retirement. Breaking news at www.chessbase.com... |
|Mar-10-05|| ||iron maiden: <acirce> Well, we can go back and find a lot of "what if's" if we try. For example, if Vallejo hadn't blundered into Kasparov's discovery, Topalov would have been clear first. |
|Mar-10-05|| ||acirce: I'm talking about amount of luck, not number of "what if"'s. Vallejo's position was very hard to play in time pressure and a blunder or a crucial mistake was pretty much to be expected, or at least not unlikely at all. Even if he had found a better move he would still have had to play like 15 moves with literally only minutes left. So I don't think Kasparov was "just lucky" to win that. |
|Mar-10-05|| ||acirce: <27.h4? [27.Kg4 followed by h3 wins for white] 27...g6? [27...h6 This makes a draw, it is mutual zugzwang]>|
from the TWIC report - http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/eve...
Have to take a closer look later to see if this is correct. Pawn endgames are essential to master since all other endgames can come down to them after exchanges.
|Mar-10-05|| ||shortsight: <<acirce> No, you can't blame your own shortcomings on "bad luck". Your own blunders are your own fault.>|
i believe you can't blame your loss to sickness as well, like Kramnik. it's so lame an excuse, further more, we never know for sure if kramnik's really sick, it took the due recognition and respect off your opponent. Tal was almost always sick, but he never complain a loss due to sick. i see your one-sided comments when it comes to kasparov, and it's no secret that you side kramnik.
|Mar-10-05|| ||shortsight: the irony in this game is that Kasparov lost his last game, before retiring, and he's playing sicilian! duh! |
|Mar-10-05|| ||WMD: The Closed Sicilian is exactly what Kasparov's opponents should have played more against him. They must have had a collective deathwish. |
|Mar-10-05|| ||christ: kaspy is not a bad beginner so as his amateur fans... too much talk and chalk.. |
|Mar-10-05|| ||offramp: It looks like Ljubojevic might be right, that 27...h6 draws. |
As I said earlier, GMs rarely play these + endings properly. They really are hard.
|Mar-11-05|| ||TheSlid: So, this is to be Kasparov's last "serious" game. As TS Eliot said|
"This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper".
|Mar-11-05|| ||watchchess79: Would 19. ..NC6 would have saved the game for Kasparov? Can any body demonstrate? |
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