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Nigel Short vs Enamul Hossain
United Insurance 4th 1999  ·  Sicilian Defense: Closed Variation (B26)  ·  1-0


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Jun-25-06
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  Knight13: 34. Rd7+! A natural move that kills the game.
Jul-24-06   Closed: I believe this score sheet is incorrect.

I looked in my copy of "Starting out: The Sicilian" and on pg.161 it has the game:Short-Hossain, Dhaka, 1999.

The descrepency that I found was blacks 7th move in "Starting out: The Sicilian" was 7...b5.

Maybe this is a different game, but if not it is kind of confusing.

Just trying to keep the site clean:)

Jul-24-06   Closed: I did not specify the descrepency correctly. Let me restate it.

The descrepency that I found was blacks 7th move in "Starting out: The Sicilian" was 7...b5. On the scoresheet above (on this webpage) blacks 7th move is 7...e6.

Jul-24-06   Closed: upon further review I noticed that the game transposes to the game listed in "Starting out: The Sicilian". So, it is not that bad, but it might be nice to have the correct score sheet.

I am of course assuming that that the correct scoresheet is listed in "Starting Out: The Sicilian".

Jul-25-06   WMD: Are you for real?
Jul-25-06   mack: <Are you for real?>

According to "Starting Out: The Sicilian", he is not.

Jul-25-06   Closed: <WMD>

What do you mean am I for real?

It may not be the biggest discrepency ever, but it might be nice to have the score sheet correct. Wouldn't you agree?

<Mack>

I am not to sure about your comment, but in "starting out: the sicilian" it does have blacks move as 7...b5. I don't know though maybe the score sheet is correct and the book is wrong:)

Jul-25-06   TheSlid: <Closed> Next time I see Nosher, I shall make a point of asking him which move order brought about the position after the eleventh moves.
Jul-25-06   Closed: <TheSlid>

Who is Nosher? Also, I am sure that between CG.com and "Starting out: The sicilian" somebody has the correct move order:)

I dunno I guess it is not that big of a deal, just thought I would help out.

Jul-25-06   WMD: It would be nicer if you started spelling 'discrepancy' correctly. Are you English?
Jul-25-06   Larsker: <WMD: It would be nicer if you started spelling 'discrepancy' correctly. Are you English?> He doesn't have to be English just because he doesn't know how to spell.
Jul-25-06   Rocafella: Nosher is so called, because his name is Enamul, which is associated with teeth. Noshers is an english term for teeth, maybe this is what <TheSlid> means? Otherwise, I'm stumped. And <closed> is trying to fix a game, whether he's right or not, what's your guy's problem?
Jul-26-06   Closed: <WMD><and all>

Just thought I would help out.

I like this site, but sometimes I don't understand why people feel the need to attack other people.

Save it for the chess board folks:)

Jul-26-06   mack: <Nosher is so called, because his name is Enamul, which is associated with teeth. Noshers is an english term for teeth, maybe this is what <TheSlid> means? Otherwise, I'm stumped.>

Last time we explained 'Nosher' (i.e. yesterday) the mods decided to delete it. Heaven knows why.

Jul-26-06   Rocafella: Maybe they have false teeth :o)
Jul-26-06   Runemaster: <Rocafella: Nosher is so called, because his name is Enamul, which is associated with teeth. Noshers is an english term for teeth>

Are you for real?

Jul-26-06   Rocafella: No I'm not, it was a joke <Runemaster>
Jul-28-06   TheSlid: OK <Clocked> My apologies - let me explain:

I doubt there is much significance in the move order in this rather closed position and, to my eyes, the "battle array" or Tabiya would appear to be after Black's 11th move.

"Nosher" is an informal name, or nick-name (nic) given to Nigel Short. Like many British chess players "nic's", this is basically an anagram. An anagram is a rearrangement of letters. For instance, I am told that "Brenda O'Randle" (the famous Irish Ladies champion), is actually an anagram of "Leonard Barden", the anagram under which she wrote her chess column in the English Rag the Guardian.

Nigel originates from the NW of England (near me) but now lives in Greece. Hence, "next time I see Nosher..."

I am sorry, I certainly meant no real offence, but I thought the site had some irony detectors left.

Jul-28-06   Closed: <The Slid>

I am not sure if you were talking to me or not. The name <clocked> was closer to my name then anyone elses who had posted thus far on this page.

Dude, I don't really care:) It is just chess-chatter. My feelings are in tact and...whatever.

Just for the record though, I am not English (although nothing wrong with that). Someone had said I was English cause they thought I couldn't spell. In rebutle, they can go [blank]themselves because they are rude:)

"Short" and sweet, now hows that for a pun.

Jul-28-06   TIMER: <Closed> Kasparov has used the pun "It will be Short, and it will be short!" (referring to his coming title defence in 1993 - he was right)
Jan-11-07
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  rndapology: Thanks for the laugh all! I was just looking up some closed sicilian games and this commentary was just hilarious: "Nosher is so called, because his name is Enamul, which is associated with teeth." and "I am not sure if you were talking to me or not. The name <clocked> was closer to my name then anyone elses who had posted thus far on this page." LOL
Apr-18-07   CaptainEvans: I'm more disturbed by the idea that according to <The Slid> Leonard Barden is actually a woman called Brenda O'Randle. I'd've sworn he was a fella.

Anyway great discussion above though - I haven't laughed as much in years.


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