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Arnold Denker vs Arthur Randolph Shayne
"Bitte!" (game of the day Feb-15-2012)
Rochester, NY (1945)
Bishop's Opening: MacDonnell Gambit. La Bourdonnais-Denker Gambit (C23)  ·  1-0


Annotations by Eric Schiller.      [184 more games annotated by E Schiller]

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Apr-14-05  dbquintillion: denker shayne is already a pun by itself.
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  Sneaky: "Denker-Shayne. Bitte!" hehe
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  cu8sfan: <dbquintillion> Even though German is my native language it took me a long time to get your pun! (-:
Apr-14-05  the quiet man: Arthur Randolph Shayne (1897-1963)was a mainstay of the Chicago Eastside Chess Club from the 1930s onwards. He always pronounced his name as "Shine" - some thought the family name had originally been German ("Schein"??). It's a pity that this game does not show him at his best.
Apr-14-05  dbquintillion: <cu8> those are about the only two words of German that I know, unfortunately.

Incidentally, as someone who lives about a mile from Wrigley Field, I have to take issue with your assertion that this will be the year. This is not going to be the year. They aren't going to be able to score any runs all year. I went to the game on Monday, which was very discouraging. They were shut out by the Padres. Not a good sign.

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  Seraphina: dbquintillion, surely you know more German, less useful perhaps when traveling in the Federal Republic, Austria and parts of Switzerland, but still..... what about Zugzwang??? Kindergarten? Zeitgeist?? maybe Zeitnot??? Gesundheit?? And when we call 5$ a fin, it's also a derivative of the German fünf, meaning five... But I digress

But back to the game... It seems Shayne simply embarked on the wrong ship with his 4th move. Ba5 seems perfectly appropriate at this point, 5. Nf3 can be answered with d6 or Nf6 even.

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  cu8sfan: <dbquintillion> They're only 1.5 out of first! It's a bit early to start the 'Wait 'till next year' chants...
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  EmperorAtahualpa: Yikes! What a play.
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  Catfriend: Very nice use of entwining mate threats. However, black's play is far from being satisfactory, for example 4..Bc5 is worse than the strange-looking 4..Bd6. And of course, 2..Bc5 deems dubious as an attempt to counter the Bishop.
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  patzer2: After the "boldly played" 12. Bf6!?, Black seems to escape with 12...c6!

Fritz 8 gives 12... c6! 13. Qd3 gxf6 14. exf6 Bxf6 15. Rae1+ Be7 16. Qd6 Na6 17. Bxa6 bxa6 18. Rxe7+ Qxe7 19. Re1 Qxe1+ 20. Nxe1 f6 21. Nc2 a5 22. Ne3 Ba6 23. Nf5 O-O-O (-0.62 @ 16 depth), and Black survives White's attack with a small advantage.

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  patzer2: Black could have put up more resistance at the end with 15...d6 16. Nxf7 Qd7 17. Qh5 Rxf7 18. Bxf7+ Kd8 19. Qxh7 , but White still appears to have a slow but sure win.

However, White could have ended it even more simply and decisively with 16. Nxh7!, when Black is clearly lost (e.g. 16. Nxh7! d6? 17. Nf6#).

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  patzer2: Of course the continuation with 16. Nxf7! is a good example of the use of the pin in facilitating a mate with the Knight.
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  patzer2: If White plays 16. Nxh7! and Black responds 16...Qc7, White has a pretty pursuit mate after 17. Rxe7+ Kxe7 18. Qg5+ f6 19. Qg7+ Rf7 20. Qxf7+ Kd6 21. Qf8+ Ke5 22. Qxf6+ Ke4 23. Ng5#.
Apr-14-05  charms: Shayne ist kein großer Denker.
I think that after 12..c6! was clearly called for. White's position looks terrifiying, but things are not as clear from a theoretical point of view. Catfriend:
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  kevin86: A few side questions:
1 In your opinion,was Shane dead when his horse went off with Shane on the back?

2 We have a former local athlete,named Shayne Fischer-what sport does he coach?

3 Two days in a row,we have had one nae players-is this a theme?

Answer:Shayne Fischer coaches basketball and golf--too bad he does't coach horseback riding,or chess.

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  kugely: Again, I must commend Mr. Schiller for his "play by play" comments. It greatly enhances my enjoyment of
Apr-14-05  allanon880: Excellent pun. Ha Ha Ha
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  WannaBe: 1. Shayne was dead on move 9. Nxc3.
and he couldn't come back. 8-)
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  refutor: i'm a fan of the accelerated evans gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Bc5 3.b4!?) i've been thinking about trying the bishop's opening in blitz to give it a go. if 2. ...Nc6 then 3.Nf3 going to two knights and if 2. ...Nf6 then 3.Nf3 with the transposition to the petroff gambit whose name i can't recall off the top of my head.
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  THE pawn: It's always a shayne to lose like that...
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  FSR: Shayne, you're playing a game you never can win, girl . . . .
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  ToTheDeath: Terribly sloppy annotations by Schiller- it's clear they have not been checked with a modern computer engine.

No mention of 7...d5 as a strong alternative to 7...Ne4.

No mention of 8... O-O! 9. cxd4 d5 again with a fine game for Black.

The line given by Schiller "11...O-O 12.Bxe7 Qxe7 13.Rfe1 c6 14.Qd3 b5 15.Bb3 b4 16.Bc2 g6 17.h4 and Black is paralyzed" is just nonsense- after 17...c5! followed by Bb7 and Nc6 it is White who has problems.

Again, the position after 12... Bxf6 13. exf6 Qxf6 14. Rfe1+ Kd8 15. Ng5 (Schiller stops here) c6! 16. Qa5+ b6 17. Qa3 Qxg5 18. Qxf8+ Kc7 is hardly over for Black.

As others have brought up there is no mention at all of 12...c6.

And on the next move too 13... c6 14. Qh5 d5! 15. Rae1 Qd6 16. Rxe7+ Kd8 17. Qh6 Re8 18. Ne5 Qxe5 19. Rxe5 Rxe5 20. Bd3 Nd7 would prolong resistance.

And finally after 15... d6! 16. Nxf7 Qd7 17. Qh5 Rxf7 18. Bxf7+ Kd8 19. Qxh7 c5 White should win but he still has work to do.

Schiller appears to have used the all too common method of annotating by game result, and by the desire to paint a pretty picture. Chess is already beautiful enough, it doesn't need to be made prettier with shallow and one sided annotations.

Sep-20-09  WhiteRook48: all black did is grab material
Feb-15-12  sevenseaman: Nice finish but Denker had winning chances along the way.
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  xthred: Very cool. Will try to use it.
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