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Jose Raul Capablanca vs Mary Bain
Simul, 23b (1933), Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA USA, May-21
Four Knights Game: Spanish. Classical Variation (C48)  ·  0-1
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Aug-08-06  Zaius: I completely agree <jahhaj>
Aug-08-06  atragon: I agree too. Better accepting when you lose a game. Capa was too much up respect to Mary Bain and he had to refuse that kind of gift.
Aug-08-06  dakgootje: <jahhaj and others>Well i think it doesnt matter who the master and who the amateur is here. Its more that Capa obviously knew he was lost, and that he knew that she knew he was lost. Therefore he ALSO knew that she offered a draw at a moment she didnt need one. Gracious from her side and besides that by saving him she knew she made the game well-known (who would offer a draw versus capa in a won position) AND it would be very positive for the imagine people would have about her. Last but not least, in a situation as noted above is would be extremely graceless to decline the offer first of all because you decline a helping hand and it looks rude as its a woman who offers it.
Aug-08-06  Hannibal: man, you have to know Capa personality...he liked woman very much...and woman liked Capa too!!...even he used to offer draws agaist very beautiful woman-oponents in some games (casual games, etc)...capa was a "galán"
Aug-08-06
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  Calli: <atragon> <jahhaj> <Zaius> "What you don't know about women is a lot." - Olympia Dukakis in the movie "Moonstruck"
Aug-08-06  ughaibu: If Capablanca was blindfold, he wouldn't have known it was a woman.
Aug-09-06
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  Calli: Are you forgetting the sense of smell? He was not blindfold. Capa played almost no blindfold games. This an ordinary simul. "The Unknown Capablanca" gives the result as 21 wins 2 draws on 21 May 1933. This PGN is one that is all around the 'net. I think somebody decided the only way JRC could blunder so badly was that he must have been sans voir.
Jul-04-07  ianD: Not Capa's worst game the following game is appalling:

Capablanca vs A Kramer, 1914

Dec-22-08  WhiteRook48: <ianD> f4??? Qg3????? Very unsound. And wasn't Kramer that guy who drew Tartakower in spectacular fashion?
Dec-23-08  WhiteRook48: Why did Capa resign?
Dec-23-08  Karpova: <WhiteRook48: Why did Capa resign?> He'll lose a piece since the ♗a4 is hanging.
Jan-06-09  WhiteRook48: what I don't get about Capa is why he never moved the b and d pawns in this game. He never developed that c1-Bishop. but wait, the black c8-bishop is blocked in also. Interesting...
Jan-13-09  WhiteRook48: 12. Bb5 c6 traps the other Bishop.
Feb-06-09  WhiteRook48: Four Knights opening seems unsound
May-17-10  YoungEd: Mary was the Bain of his existence.
Aug-08-10  dannygjk: the 4 knights has not been shown to be unsound
Aug-08-10  dannygjk: as for Capa not knowing whether Mary Bain was attractive. even if this game was blindfold, the player is not literally blindfolded, they merely don't get to see the board. Capa could have easily seen her during the simul, as long as he does not see the boards, she could have shown herself to him.
Aug-08-12
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  Dionysius1: Regardless of the logic, I love your comment <ughaibu>
Aug-08-12
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  RookFile: Nonsense. Capa knew the scent of a woman when he smelled it.
Jan-09-13  Elian: Whats up if 12.Nc5?, i dont see the win there
Jan-09-13
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  Sastre: <Elian: Whats up if 12.Nc5?, i dont see the win there>

12.Nc5 Rh4 13.Rxc1 (13.g3 Rh5 14.d4 b6) b6 14.g3 Rc4 .

Jan-09-13  Elian: Ah, its true! Thanks! :D
Jul-20-15  ragtag: Après un bon bain...
à la nuit tombée,
j'irai hurler à la lune!

Aahouuuuuuu!

Nov-28-15
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  bamonson: This most certainly was NOT a blindfold game by Capablanca. It was a normal simul.
Nov-28-15
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  bamonson: Also, Mary Bain was married to Leslie Bain at the time, Leslie being one of the organizers of the Hollywood Chess club in 1933. Mary was also not an especially attractive woman, and Capa had plenty of other starlets he was carousing with in the summer of 1933, he certainly wasn't making moves on Mary.
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