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| Jun-18-05 | | Jaymthetactician: Also note that Damiano didnt resign when he should have, chess as we know it was new then so it is expected to play that poorly. |
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| Jun-18-05 | | Jaymthetactician: And it look's like Greco was "Unmathed" How does someone who is unmathed learn how to calculate anyway's? |
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Jun-20-05
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| Jun-21-05 | | humanehuman: Perhaps he was late for church? |
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| Jun-21-05 | | Jaymthetactician: I read it through my bad eye.
it doesent look like a poor quality game.
But the doubled b-pawns on the open file? Here is my annotations: 1.e4,e6
2.d4,d5
3.e5,c5
4.c3,Nc6
5.Nf3,Bd7
6.Be3,cxd4
7.cxd4,Qb6 (crudely staring down the b-pawn, now I often play the 1.e4,c5 2.Nf3,e6 3.d4,cxd4 4.Nxd4,Qb6 sicilian as black, but in the french doesnt look correct)
8.Qc1,Rc8 (Lucena plan's a discovery, but even Damiano found 9.Nc3 making it useless)
9.Nc3,Bb4 (not a good move, as the bishop is exchanged no matter what)
10.Be2,Nge7
11.a3,Bxc3+
12.bxc3,Na5 (12...Nf5 13.Bd2,Qc7 would be better)
13.Rb1,Rxc3?? (Lucena should lose with this, because after move 16.Kd2,Nec6 17.Bd3  )
14.Rxb6,Rxc1+
15.Bxc1,axb6
16.Nd2,f5 (perhap's the strongest move back then as there is no en passant or castling) Said by the author, I disagree as there is a backward pawn that can be exploited. |
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| Oct-12-06 | | Achilles: will i pass mr atienza's subject? |
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| Sep-13-07 | | realbrob: Why on earth should Black resign here? Is there some crushing attack I completely missed? |
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| Sep-13-07 | | Petrosianic: Well, you have to remember, this was 1575. Probably the Saracens were attacking, or something like that. |
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| Sep-13-07 | | dehanne: <Well, you have to remember, this was 1575. Probably the Saracens were attacking, or something like that.>
Bollocks. The Reconquista had ended in 1492.
It had to be the Spanish Inquisition, instead. |
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| Sep-13-07 | | Petrosianic: Oh. Well, I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition. |
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| Sep-13-07 | | FHBradley: <Petrosianic:> Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition! |
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| Sep-13-07 | | sanyas: 1.e4 e5
2. f3 d6
3. c4 f5?!
4.d3? (4.d4) e7? (4...f6)
5. e2?! (5.c3) c6
6.h3? (6.c3) f4? (6...d5)
7.g3? (7.xe5) fxg3
8.fxg3 c7? (8...f6)
9.c3 (9.g5) f6?
10.b4? (10.g5)
Now Black should play 10...h6 11.a4! bd7 12.0-0 b6 13.b3 d7 14.b2 0-0-0;  ...e8, ...g6, ... he8 and ...d5. There is, of course, no need to resign just yet. |
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| Sep-19-07 | | wolfmaster: My guess was that Lopez blundered after 10.b4, and was so ashamed of his loss that he made sure no one found out about his blunder. |
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| Jan-26-08 | | wolfmaster: Of course, it could have been a long, uneventful struggle which Lopez and da Cutri thought would not be worth saving for posterity. |
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| Jan-26-08 | | VaselineTopLove: Maybe they were playing correspondence chess, and Lopez ran out of money to buy postage and forfeited as a result... |
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| May-27-08 | | Halofire: Why 6.h3? It's alittle late if it attempts to block the white bishop. It wastes a tempo and the better move would be Nc3. When black made 6.f4 the easy counter would have been h3 then instead of wasting a tempo before. |
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| Oct-08-08 | | just a kid: Maybe they couldn't recover the rest of the game. |
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Jul-30-09
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| Sep-11-09 | | Kasparkov: 10. b4
I can't get it.. |
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| Mar-04-10 | | rich187113: All his games are too short I want to see a game of like 40 moves at least, lol. |
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| Oct-29-10 | | Skakalec: <just a kid> <Maybe they couldn't recover the rest of the game.> It should be possible with the computer's help :-).
ZX80 in this case. |
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| Mar-22-11 | | theodor: maybe they analised openings? and the position is losing, that's why they stoped anotating further? |
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| Mar-23-11 | | hottyboy90: bad game |
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| May-22-11 | | IRONCASTLEVINAY: its great, even these old games are hard to understand, just like todays GM games! |
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| Feb-15-12 | | The Finisher: 10...d5 11.exd5 cxd5 12.nb5 Attack the Queen and force her to move. Its quite nasty.. if careless it's a family fork, if not, a Queen for both Bishops. White's pieces are well developed. The mistake would have been to keep trading and then comes the inevitable Qc3+ and taking of the White Rook.. but now instead:
12...Qc6 13.Nxe5 Qb6 14.Be3 Black has nowhere to go.
However... 11...Bxb4 12.Qxe5+ Qxe5+ 13.Nxe5 Bxb3+ and it's over, so Black wins if he stays sharp. I think 10.0-0 may have even been a winning move!
Don't meet the Philidor very often. I think it's important for all e4-Nf3 players to be able to convert the Philidor to a point, so this is a timely reminder for me. |
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