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|Jun-18-05|| ||Jaymthetactician: Also note that Damiano didnt resign when he should have, chess as we know it was new then so it is expected to play that poorly.|
|Jun-18-05|| ||Jaymthetactician: And it look's like Greco was "Unmathed" How does someone who is unmathed learn how to calculate anyway's?|
|Jun-20-05|| ||InspiredByMorphy: <Jaym> Very cool link. Im not sure what you mean by "unmathed" . The link you provided mentioned that Greco was unmatched. Are you confusing the two? Also, although I havent had a chance to look at the game yet, judging by the opening moves it doesent look like a poor quality game. It is an invaluable game, being as it is very hard (as you know) to find anything played by Lucena.|
|Jun-21-05|| ||humanehuman: Perhaps he was late for church?|
|Jun-21-05|| ||Jaymthetactician: I read it through my bad eye.
it doesent look like a poor quality game.
But the doubled b-pawns on the open file? Here is my annotations:
7.cxd4,Qb6 (crudely staring down the b-pawn, now I often play the 1.e4,c5 2.Nf3,e6 3.d4,cxd4 4.Nxd4,Qb6 sicilian as black, but in the french doesnt look correct)
8.Qc1,Rc8 (Lucena plan's a discovery, but even Damiano found 9.Nc3 making it useless)
9.Nc3,Bb4 (not a good move, as the bishop is exchanged no matter what)
12.bxc3,Na5 (12...Nf5 13.Bd2,Qc7 would be better)
13.Rb1,Rxc3?? (Lucena should lose with this, because after move 16.Kd2,Nec6 17.Bd3 )
16.Nd2,f5 (perhap's the strongest move back then as there is no en passant or castling) Said by the author, I disagree as there is a backward pawn that can be exploited.
|Oct-12-06|| ||Achilles: will i pass mr atienza's subject?|
|Sep-13-07|| ||realbrob: Why on earth should Black resign here? Is there some crushing attack I completely missed?|
|Sep-13-07|| ||Petrosianic: Well, you have to remember, this was 1575. Probably the Saracens were attacking, or something like that.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||dehanne: <Well, you have to remember, this was 1575. Probably the Saracens were attacking, or something like that.>
Bollocks. The Reconquista had ended in 1492.
It had to be the Spanish Inquisition, instead.
|Sep-13-07|| ||Petrosianic: Oh. Well, I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||FHBradley: <Petrosianic:> Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!|
|Sep-13-07|| ||sanyas: 1.e4 e5
4.d3? (4.d4) e7? (4...f6)
5.e2?! (5.c3) c6
6.h3? (6.c3) f4? (6...d5)
7.g3? (7.xe5) fxg3
8.fxg3 c7? (8...f6)
9.c3 (9.g5) f6?
Now Black should play 10...h6 11.a4! bd7 12.0-0 b6 13.b3 d7 14.b2 0-0-0; ...e8, ...g6, ...he8 and ...d5. There is, of course, no need to resign just yet.
|Sep-19-07|| ||wolfmaster: My guess was that Lopez blundered after 10.b4, and was so ashamed of his loss that he made sure no one found out about his blunder.|
|Jan-26-08|| ||wolfmaster: Of course, it could have been a long, uneventful struggle which Lopez and da Cutri thought would not be worth saving for posterity.|
|Jan-26-08|| ||VaselineTopLove: Maybe they were playing correspondence chess, and Lopez ran out of money to buy postage and forfeited as a result...|
|May-27-08|| ||Halofire: Why 6.h3? It's alittle late if it attempts to block the white bishop. It wastes a tempo and the better move would be Nc3. When black made 6.f4 the easy counter would have been h3 then instead of wasting a tempo before.|
|Oct-08-08|| ||just a kid: Maybe they couldn't recover the rest of the game.|
|Jul-30-09|| ||blacksburg: this game was lost by black.|
|Sep-11-09|| ||Kasparkov: 10. b4
I can't get it..
|Mar-04-10|| ||rich187113: All his games are too short I want to see a game of like 40 moves at least, lol.|
|Oct-29-10|| ||Skakalec: <just a kid> <Maybe they couldn't recover the rest of the game.>|
It should be possible with the computer's help :-).
ZX80 in this case.
|Mar-22-11|| ||theodor: maybe they analised openings? and the position is losing, that's why they stoped anotating further?|
|Mar-23-11|| ||hottyboy90: bad game|
|May-22-11|| ||IRONCASTLEVINAY: its great, even these old games are hard to understand, just like todays GM games!|
|Feb-15-12|| ||The Finisher: 10...d5 11.exd5 cxd5 12.nb5 Attack the Queen and force her to move. Its quite nasty.. if careless it's a family fork, if not, a Queen for both Bishops. White's pieces are well developed. |
The mistake would have been to keep trading and then comes the inevitable Qc3+ and taking of the White Rook.. but now instead:
12...Qc6 13.Nxe5 Qb6 14.Be3 Black has nowhere to go.
However... 11...Bxb4 12.Qxe5+ Qxe5+ 13.Nxe5 Bxb3+ and it's over, so Black wins if he stays sharp.
I think 10.0-0 may have even been a winning move!
Don't meet the Philidor very often. I think it's important for all e4-Nf3 players to be able to convert the Philidor to a point, so this is a timely reminder for me.
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