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|Mar-04-14|| ||lost in space: ahh, an orgy on the f-file:
32. Rxf5 Qxf5 33. Rf1 Qxf1 34. Qxf1+ Kg8 35. Qf7+ and Black is lost
|Mar-04-14|| ||M.Hassan: "Easy"
White to play 32.?
White has a Rook for a Knight+pawn
White can win the Queen and launch a deadly attack to mate:
Black Bishop is pinned and can not defend King.
|Mar-04-14|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: Crumb. I made some mistakes again in my alternate lines, and deleted the posts accordingly. :(|
Anyhow, I got the game line in this one up to the point that Black resigned, but was envisioning Bxe7 as the continuation, not Qf7+.
|Mar-04-14|| ||agb2002: White has a rook for a knight and a pawn.
Black threatens 32... Bxd6 33.Rxf5 Qxf5 34,Rf1 Bf4.
The alignment of Black's royal family along the f-file suggests 32.Rxf5:
A) 32... Qxf5 33.Rf1
A.1) 33... Qxf1+ 34.Qxf1+ Kg8 35.Qf7+ Kh7 36.Qxe8, etc.
A.2) 33... Bxd6 34.Rxf5+ + - [Q vs N+P].
A.3) 33... Qf6 34.Rxf6+ gxf6 35.Bxc5 + - [Q+B vs R+N+P].
B) 32... Bxd6 33.Rxf6+ is similar to A.2.
|Mar-04-14|| ||notevenbad: In this position whatever white plays wins|
|Mar-04-14|| ||morfishine: <32.Rxf5> wins (32...Qxf5 33.Rf1)|
|Mar-04-14|| ||Once: There is a little more to this one than meets the eye. Not much more, admittedly, but definitely a little something. |
At first glance, this looks like a typical f file pile up. The black king and queen are on the same open file so you dig into your memory trove, ease past the first kiss, the dreadful fashions of the seventies and horror that was Knight Rider and you unearth a tactic that you played as a kid...
32. Rxf5 Qxf5 33. Rf1
The black queen is pinned, your queen is safe - the game is over, my friend. Now would you have the decency to resign. Cherchez la femme.
Except it's not quite so simple. We've been throwing wood away to get at the black queen. What if she gives up her life dearly? What if 34. Kxg8 Bxd6? Material is all but level. White probably still wins but it's not so clear-cut.
So we look for a better continuation for white. That's when we find 34. Qxf1+. Suddenly the game is not the 1970s cherchez la femme. It's the 1980s and Culture Club are stuttering to karma karma karma chameleon (what was that all about?). The point behind 34. Qxf1+ is that f7 is suddenly vulnerable. 34... Kg8 35. Qf7+ is a massacre. We have graduated from cherchez la femme to infiltration.
But just when we think that we've sucked all the marrow from this problem, there's another wrinkle. Black doesn't have to grab the rook on f1. How about the cool (some would say desperate) 33...Qf6? If black is going to lose material, he might as well lose it on his terms. He tries to ensure that the f file stays closed. White will not be able to get to the f7 square as easily as he thought.
Now we need to shift our approach yet again. It's now the 1990s and the era of grrrl power. After 33...Qxf6 we snaffle material with tempo not giving black chance to grab the en prise Bd6. 34. Rxf6 gxf6 followed by Bxc5 or Bxe7+ or Bxc6.
A little more involved than your normal Choosday.
|Mar-04-14|| ||hoodrobin: The f-file... Ah those days!|
|Mar-04-14|| ||Cybe: 24… Ng4? is a completely disaster. Black should play 24… Bc7, which gives good - hard and heavy - game for both sides.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||zb2cr: From 1864, a reminder that Louis Paulsen was not just a great defensive player. 34. Rxf5, Qxf5; 35. Rf1, Qxf1+; 36. Qxf1+, Kg8; 37. Qf7+, Kh8; 38. Qxe8+, Kh7; 40. Be4+ and White has a clear win.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||Oxspawn: My instant reaction is
32. Rxf5 pinning the queen but I am not sure how useful this is.
32. Rxf5 Qxf5
33 Rf1 Qxf1+
34. Kxf1….. Bxd6
Hmmm. White, who was up rook for knight, now has Q and bishop against rook knight and bishop. Going to have a rethink. There are lots of options for white so my brain hurts.
…. Later. Tried 32 Qc5 and 32. Bxe7 and ran into the sand so I played through the game. Imagine my surprise. Apparently, queens can take backwards! Looks like me and Von Schmidt both overlooked 34. Qxf1+. Still, if I can’t win like a GM I can at least lose like one.
… Later still. Just found out Eugen Von Schmidt not a GM but a “strong amateur”. Oh well, if I can’t win like a strong amateur I can at least lose like one.
Louis Paulsen was almost world champion (drew with Anderssen) and according to Wikipedia “put forward the idea that any brilliant attack would have failed against correct defence”. This sounds like racial stereotyping, if said with a strong German accent, but also quite funny. Also true. And successfully adopted by the German football team.
|Mar-04-14|| ||Penguincw: It can't be that simple. 1/2 now this week.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||iscu two: 32. ♖x♗f5 removes the B pinned to (but protecting) the Q, in turn pinning the Q to the K, the crux of the attack.|
32. ... ♕x♖e5 33. ♖f1 pins the Q to the K again, forcing 33. ... ♕x♖f1 34. ♕x♕f1+ ♔g8 35. ♕f7+ forks the rook 35. ... ♔h8 36. ♕x♖e1+ ♔h7 (♗f8 delays) 37. ♗e4+ g3 38. ♕xg3#
|Mar-04-14|| ||patzer2: Pin to the second power: 32. Rxf5! Qxf5 33. Rf1 .|
|Mar-04-14|| ||landogriffin: Nice puzzle; not only do you have to see 32.Rxf5 Qxf5 33.Rf1, but also 33...Qxf1+ 34.Qxf1+! AND, ideally, 35.Qf7+!, picking up the rook.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||paulalbert: Was satisfied with totally won position when I got to 34. Qxf1+ after round 1; should have also looked for decisive knockout in round 2 as well, but like others, didn't even think about it.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||newzild: Spotted the combo easily enough but preferred to start with 32. Bxc6 to initiate exchanges first.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||Patriot: White is up the exchange for a pawn. Black threatens 32...Bxd6.|
32.Rxf5 looks winning.
32...Qxf5 33.Rf1 Qxf1+ 34.Qxf1+ Kg8 35.Qf7+
32...Qxf5 33.Rf1 Bxd6 34.Rxf6+
|Mar-04-14|| ||PJs Studio: The f file sure makes our favorite game more exciting eh?|
|Mar-04-14|| ||kevin86: The twin pins gain a queen and bishop for two rooks. But then white picks up more in the aftermath.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||ajk68: Many people are putting 33...Qxf1+. This move leads to a forced mate. g6 doesn't lead to such a quick win - still a win.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||chrisowen: Trade for one f5 capture should really set the cat, |
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|Mar-04-14|| ||BOSTER: For me it is not clear what made L.Paulsen very popular: his contribution in chess theory, his system of play, or the bright reflection of the brilliant combo with queen sacr. in his game vs. P.Morphy, 1857 y.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||MountainMatt: Easy as pie - 32. Rxf5 Qxf5 33. Rf1 Qxf1 34. Qxf1 and yes, it's time to resign.|
|Mar-04-14|| ||Strelets: <Cybe> 24...Ng4? is bad, but 26...Qd6?! only compounds the error, losing the exchange by force.|
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