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William Norwood Potter vs Matthews
London (1868), London ENG
Danish Gambit: General (C21)  ·  1-0


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Jul-01-05  farrooj: <marco65> Want the answer to the puzzle?
Jul-01-05  tjshann: A very nice mate. Once black takes the Queen, everything is forced. The hard move to see was Bg5k+, which forces black to put a pawn or Knight on f6, blocking the King's escape.
Jul-01-05  DevastatioN: <farooj> I actually solved the answer ot that puzzle, and yes, it is very interesting, it's better when people find out for themselves tho, rather than giving them the answer :)
Jul-01-05  farrooj: great, I'll only give the answer if someone begs (no, no, I'm jokin) But anyone wanting the answer can ask me
Jul-01-05  fgh: <maoam>: There is no timing, but you can obviously estimate how much time it has taken. You might also be interested in how I solve these puzzles and what allows me to solve them so quickly:

Just when I see the diagram, immediately I check:

1. My memory, if I haven't seen that position or a similar pattern before.

2. I begin to consider all candidate moves. I check the king's safety, the position of the queens, pawn structures, pins, mate threats, discovered checks and nearly all the factors in the positions. Of course, it must be done as quickly as possible :-)

Usually, I solve each of the first 5 puzzles of the week under 20 seconds (yesterday's puzzle took me 12 seconds), but it takes notably more time for Saturday and Sunday puzzles.

Jul-01-05  Marco65: <farrooj> Thanks I found the answer at the end! Very tricky, I don't post it here since it may spoil the fun to other people. I knew I had to have another black piece to contribute to the mating net standing from its home, but I first tried with the queen...

Maybe you can temporary publish the results to these puzzle in your profile, if someone wants to check the solution

Jul-01-05  Sbetsho: I saw NxN BxQ Bxf7+ Ke7 Bg5 mate immadiately
Jul-01-05  fgh: <Sbetsho>: That's nice, but in fact there is no mate after Nf6 :-)

Tssssss tssssss :-)

Jul-01-05  maoam: <You might also be interested in how I solve these puzzles and what allows me to solve them so quickly>

Not at all.

Jul-01-05  filipecea: Wow!

It looks like magic from Mr. William Harry Potter...

Jul-01-05  fgh: <maoam>: In that case, I don't understand, why are you making such a scandal around the simple fact, that I solved this puzzle in 0.5 seconds. Ohhhhhh waitttt.... Maybe you are just jealous, because it took you more time than myself?
Jul-02-05  Ultra: <fgh>

Maybe not.

Jul-02-05  maoam: <fgh: Ohhhhhh waitttt.... Maybe you are just jealous, because it took you more time than myself?>

I'm sure that explanation allows you to maintain your delusion that people actually care how quickly you solve these puzzles. I'm going to save myself the bother of reading (or replying to) any more of your junk by sticking you on my ignore list.

Jul-02-05  farrooj: Anyone else wants the answer to the puzzle written on my profile?
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  patzer2: White's 9. Nxe5! initiates an instructive combination, utilizing the discovered check tactic to win decisive material or mate (as in the game).
Jul-07-05  Timmer: Black can prevent mate by doing 11. Bg5+ Ke6 instead. This could lead to the following exchange: 12. Nc6+ Kf5 13. Nxd8 Kxg5 14. Nxf7+ Kf6 15. Nxh8 Be2. This would leave white without a decisive advantage. Other variations on this move also inhibit a quick mate for white.
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  patzer2: <Timmer> Indeed Black can prevent an immediate mate and put up more resistance after 11... Ke6 12. Nc6+ Kf5 13. Nxd8 Kxg5 14. Nxf7+ Kf6 15. Nxh8 Be2 .

However, White should win easy enough after the continuation of play with a line such as 16. c4 a6 17. Ba4 g5 18. Nc3 Kg7 19. Nxe2 dxe2 20. Rxe2 Kxh8 21. Rae1 Bg7 22. Re6 Be5 23. Bc2 b5 24. Be4 Rb8 25. Bd5 Kg7 26. b3 g4 27. h3 g3 28. fxg3 Nf6 29. Re7+ Kg6 30. Rb7 Rc8 31. Bf7+ Kh6 32. g4 b4 33. Re7 Bd4+ 34. Kh2 Be5+ 35. g3 Rf8 36. Rf1 Ng8 37. Ra7 .

Feb-16-06  MorphyMatt: Very cool trap!
Apr-13-06  dakgootje: Very nice trap indeed! What exactly was blacks blunder, maybe d3?
Apr-13-06  thathwamasi: Doesnt this look like the wierd mate of morphy againt le carpentier??
Apr-13-06  MorphyMatt: <thathwamasi> yeah, a lot. Morphy vs Le Carpentier, 1849
Apr-14-06  dakgootje: <thathwamasi> Yups, both were mated from the corner with the knight, though the way leading to the mate was quite differant
Sep-21-08  megatacos: funny game

May-19-09  WhiteRook48: gee, Morphy did this!
Aug-17-09  mertangili: Isnt 8...dxe5 instead of 8...Nxe5 prevents the mating combo as there is no 10. Bb5+ since the knight is staying on c6? I looked at the possibilities after 8...dxe5 and saw a materially balanced game with a white lead in development but black has a dangerous passed pawn on d3 in return. Or is there something i am overlooking?
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