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Matthias Bach vs Ralf Schubert
"Chess Fugue" (game of the day May-18-05)
BL2-N 9697 1996  ·  King's Indian Defense: Four Pawns Attack (E76)  ·  0-1


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May-18-05   sergeidave: Lol! Nice one, chessgames!
May-18-05
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  chessgames.com: The credit for this one goes to acirce who submitted it.
May-18-05   soberknight: FIFTH ;)
May-18-05
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  cu8sfan: <FIFTH ;)> Whatever that means... I always loved this forum as it's not as cryptic, UKWIM!?

What a fun pun. Maybe you should have waited 'til Friday to honor <acirce>... (-;

May-18-05   JohnTal: Bach's 24th move is a wrong note - he has a solid Q side pawn structure, I would recommend 24 Qb3 setting up Qa4 or a4 followed by b5.

g4 simply opened up the game for black and misreading his musical score on the 28th move pushed Bach into some awful bel canto.

May-18-05   Marvol: <cu8sfan: <FIFTH ;)> Whatever that means... I always loved this forum as it's not as cryptic, UKWIM!?>

Oh come on... this one's easy!
He is referring to all the people who post nothing but FIRST on daily puzzles &c.

Now, UKWIM has me baffled though :-S

May-18-05
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  cu8sfan: <Marvol> O I see, he was writing in CAPS! I thought that was some acronym. UKWIM, maybe it should be YKWIM = You Know What I Mean. (-:
May-18-05   tacite: Very nice pun today. Though I would have prefered Bach to win (for musical reasons), I have to admit that Schubert lied was getting more magnificat starting on the 24th move (like JohnTal wrote). By the way, could Bach have played Nf3 on the 28th move instead of Rf3?
May-18-05
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  kevin86: I would suggest-"Follow the Lieder"-since Schubert wrote lieder (songs)-and he won this game. However,since fugues are far more known,the title is still good.

Too bad for white-how rare it is to resign when an alternate move is it promote a pawn.

May-18-05   Ezzy: Why not just have a seperate pun page. It is becoming obvious that the 'game of the day' page has lost its value for what it is. Lets just re-name it 'pun of the day' page! I can just imagine a new visitor to this website, looking at the 'Game of the day page, and observing all the wonderful discussions on how good todays pun was! I suppose now, we will have thousands of suggesred games submitted by <soberknight> and we will have to endure months or years of observing meaningless games of the day, just because the pun is more interesting than the game! This game is a joke!! I once participated on this page, but will no longer do so!
May-18-05   ranchogrande: thank you <ezzy>
May-18-05
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  fred lennox: It could almost be called a symphony of heavenly length. I guess 60 moves is needed. How about "Death of the Matthais" or the "St. Matthais Passion". Chess fugue is better.
May-18-05   WorldChampeen: I think some of these games of the day have been very instructive, maybe some are witty lines; but the puzzle of the day almost always features another fine game and recognizable names...then, daily, the opening of the day; 365 days a year is a lot to post a different game every day.
May-18-05
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  InspiredByMorphy: For anyone who is curious a fugue consists of a single melody in the beginning. It is shortly thereafter imitated by using the same pattern of notes starting somewhere else in the key. The imitation continues while the original pattern heard in the beginning drifts. Soon thereafter a third melody imitates the original pattern while the other two melodies drift. There must be at least three melodies interacting with each other to be a fugue. Suffice to say playing a fugue on the piano is intensely difficult. I believe Bach was one of the first (if not the first) to write fugues. He is the grandfather of classical music, and even used techniques in music only to be fully realized in the romantic period of music 150 years later. He was well ahead of his time. Kind of like Morphy...
May-18-05   Rocafella: <Ezzy> This site is for fun. You need to chill out man. On the more technical chess games, it is the opposite. The discussions are too serious. We just need to find an equilibrium of light hearted kibitzing and serious analysis. My advice: Enjoy the site for what it is, not what it could be :), but don't get me wrong I don't mean any disrespect
May-18-05
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  WannaBe: <InspiredByMorphy> You sound like my music teacher/school orchestra conductor. 8=)

My favorite is Brandenburg Concertos by Bach. Had a chance to play number 4 while in my school's orchestra. Bach wrote 6 of them for Brandenburg, (Numbered, of course, 1-6). The most amazing part, is that each instrument had 3 sub-parts written for it.

Each of the string section had 3 parts. (I am not too sure about the wind section) But Violin I would have 3 parts, Violin II would have 3 parts, and same goes for the Viola (I, me, that's my part) and Cello. The only exception was probably the Bass. This was a long time ago when I played... Now I just push pieces around on the board, and pretend I know what I am doing.

May-18-05   Kangaroo: Nice pun and very poor game played by the owners of such nice sounding names!!!
May-18-05
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  InspiredByMorphy: <WannaBe> The Brandenburg concertos are amazing. Impressive you played one! I was just thinking how cool it would be if chessgames.com once in a while had an audio clip to accompany the game. Wouldnt it be cool to pull up this game and here Tocatta/Fuge in D minor? Hold on a minute Im gonna light some candles... lol.
May-18-05
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  whatthefat: White really deserved to lose. He seemed to be allergic to his own bishops, then the moment they were off the board he set about opening up a glorious a2-g8 diagonal!
May-18-05   soberknight: Ezzy will curse me for saying this, but among punsters it's already well-known that Bach and Schubert were composers of T Music.
May-18-05   Ezzy: <Soberknight - Ezzy will curse me for saying this, but among punsters it's already well-known that Bach and Schubert were composers of T Music.> How can I possibly curse you, I am just getting over the shock that you haven't actually posted anything on the 'T Music' page. You are starting to lose your touch! :-)

May-19-05   soberknight: <You are starting to lose your touch!> But I still have a G Hand!
May-27-05   OverDjinn: It would be useful for combating the punny problem if <chessgames.com> would at least institute a qualitative ratings system similar to the USA’s Terror Alert system. Red, Orange, Yellow, Blue Green, which are for Severe, High, Elevated, Guarded, and Low, might be replaced with the chessic equivalents (RE: game quality). This game is not necessarily a poor one, but rather a technical and common one. From 10. Bg5?! we know the game is nothing special but rather an illustration of how less than exact decision making is what practical chess is all about.
Jun-07-05
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  patzer2: As <John Tal> observed, White's 24. g4?! is a "wrong note" in an otherwise well played game up to this point. It is at best a dubious move and at worst a blunder. Better is <John Tal>'s 24. Qb3! or the immediate 24. Qe2!, both of which simplify to a superior endgame for White.

However, White still had chances to save the game but blundered with 26. Rg1?, when 26. Qf3! h5 27. Qf2 Qxf2+ 28. Rxf2= would have held.

White all but surrendered the game with 28. Rf3? Bxf3 , when he had the amazing defensive resource 28. Rg2! available, which holds nicely after 28...b5 (or 28... Rbf8 29. Qb3 b5 30. Nf3 Qxh3+ 31. Kg1 =) 29. Nf3 Qxh3+ 30. Kg1 =.

Dec-12-08   Ladolcevita: clearly its not something like"lose one's composure"...its like a long torture.....
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