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|May-19-05|| ||csmath: <<i think adams play poorly rather than topalov being playing good defensive chess>>|
I'd agree. 33. Ne8? probably the most offending move and a start of a pointless plan (?) in which Adams ended up in a seriously bad position in just a few moves.
This is not a great game but it is a win, and it is earned. Frankly I feel sympathy for anybody who thinks it is a good idea to play white against Naydorf with Topalov as black. Funny enough it seems that before 33. Ne8? Adams actually had a pretty good chances since Topa was not really playing that well.
|May-20-05|| ||dbquintillion: <csmath> but you have to admit that its not every day that you get to see a knight move to the eighth rank without capturing.|
|May-20-05|| ||Milo: I really don't understand this game...
Why not just ...Be7 ...?
|May-20-05|| ||radu stancu: <ariel> There are quite a few Slavic words in Romanian, seeing that some of our neighbours (Bulgarians, Ukrainians, Serbs) are Slavs.|
<j'adobe> It's spelled <j'adoube>.
|May-20-05|| ||Valmy: <Arielbekarov> What is the meaning of j'adoube in english talking about chess?
I've never heard it, but I leave in Perpignan which is hardly France :)|
|May-20-05|| ||Honza Cervenka: <other slavic languages> It is the same (or similar) in Czech, Slovak and Polish too.|
|May-20-05|| ||radu stancu: <Valmy> "j'adoube" is the official term for asking permition to ajust the position of one of your pieces. You have to say that before touching the piece, otherwise it is considered that you actually wanted to move that piece. IIRC, you cannot do this to the oponent's pieces, you have to ask him/her to do it.|
|May-20-05|| ||Valmy: >Radu Stancu> THanks. That's pretty old french...The modern word would be "j'arrange". But it looks like the catalan verb " adobar" Which means the same than arranger.|
|May-20-05|| ||cade: At what point in this game did Adams have a winning line?|
|May-20-05|| ||halcyonteam: not tried his very best, mickey|
|May-20-05|| ||acirce: <cade> I still think 38.Qc1 was winning, but it's a bit tricky if Black plays correctly. We get lines like 38..Bd4 39.Rxa7 Bxa7 40.Qc7 Qd7 41.Qxd7 Bxd7 42.Rc1 Bb6 and now not 43.a7? Bxa7 44.Rc7 Bxf2+ 45.Kxf2 Bg4 and Black sets up a fortress draw with his king on f8, pawns on e5-f6-g6-h5 and bishop just alternating between g4 and h3. (Pointed out by Mig Greengard) But I think 43.Kg2! followed (in most cases) by 44.f3! wins as then White doesn't lose a pawn and he will still have time to win one of the bishops for the a-pawn.|
Or 38..Qc8 39.Rxa7 Bxa7 40.Qxc8 Bxc8 41.Rc1 Bxa6 42.Ra1 and now even after 42..Bxf2+ 43.Kxf2 it seems like Black doesn't get time to build a fortress.
|May-20-05|| ||Runemaster: <ariel> Re Indian languages: I am not Indian and not an expert in Indian languages, but I do know that there are many official languages (something like eleven or twelve) in India, one of which is English. So, not everybody speaks English - far from it, I think.|
I don't know what Anand's mother tongue was. I don't know him personally, either, so overall I'm about as well qualified to answer your question as I am to comment games between super-GMs.
I'm sure we have some kibitzers who can help much more, though.
|May-20-05|| ||clint: I'm in Bangalore right now, I asked about Anand to my collegues. He's from Chennai, Tamil Nadu state, his mother tongue being the Tamil.
As for the english, it seems not everybody speaks english. I'll have some problems to get a taxi for example and not only because of the spanish accent of my english! :o))|
|May-20-05|| ||arielbekarov: <radu stancu> Thank you for correcting me! I was first writing the correct spelling of "j'adoube", but I changed my mind, and to the worse. It must be said that I'm not French and unfortunately is my French too poor.
<Valmy> Very interesting this with the Catalan verb "adobar".|
It just struck my mind - "adobe reader".
Can it be that the text or the site has to be arranged for reading ?
<Runemaster> Thank you! So English is one of eleven-twelve official languages in India.
I will have to repeat my question.
It's neverending fascinating this about languages.
So, now we will see what this day will bring ...
|May-20-05|| ||Grunfeld: <Ariel> Being from India, I suppose I can answer your questions:|
India has 22 official languages as of now; English is one of them, while the others are Indian languages. Not everyone in India can speak English, even though quite a lot of people do. However, there are very few people with English as a mother tongue, less than 1% of the population.
As for Anand, his mother tongue is Tamil.
|May-20-05|| ||RisingChamp: In addition to what Grunfeld said,all major stuff is conducted usually in Hindi and English,which is rather irritating in cases of speeches.All official documents are in English and court proceedings are in English,for the very sensible reason that it is the only language which people from all parts of India speak.<Not everyone in India can speak English>to be more specific it is an "upper class"language and generally speaking most middleclass people can speak English,whereas hardly any of the poor people(who constitute the majority of India) can.Of course technically no Indian would have English as has mother tongue,but this is largely a matter of definition,since there are many Indians who are much comfortable speaking English than their mothertongue,which they mighnt not understnad(like myself I dont understand Telugu).|
|May-20-05|| ||pantlko: <grunfeld> i wld like to correct you here.........15 languages not 22....pls see any indian currency note.......there are 15 regional languages + hindi + english........hindi is the national language|
|May-20-05|| ||pantlko: may be urdu is also included......not sure abt it,,,,,,,,thats make it 16|
|May-20-05|| ||Grunfeld: No, it is 22 now - several new ones were added in the last few years, though they don't show up on existing currency yet. Take a look at: |
|May-30-05|| ||patzer2: Appears to me that Adam's simply makes an error with 35. Qd2?, allowing Topalov to exchange the Rook for two pieces and the initiative. Looks decisive at this level of play. |
Relatively better for White is 35. Qa4 !?, maintaining the tension.
Even better, earlier, is 33. Be2! Be7 34. Rb7 , gaining an advantage and avoiding the problem of having to go through contortions to defend the Knight on the eighth rank.
|May-30-05|| ||patzer2: This game is an excellent example for illustrating the superiority of the two Bishops over the Rook in the middle game.|
|Mar-15-07|| ||LIFE Master AJ: 38.Qc1! appears to win the game for WHITE.
And 52...xf2+!!! was a big improvement over the actual game.
This book is annotated in the book, "The Art of Planning in Chess, (Move by move)" by GM Neil McDonald.
|Mar-15-07|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Sorry, ...Bxf2. (I guess it is not a check.)
A few friends and I went over this game at chess club. Stephen Davis and I are slowly working our way through the McDonald book.
|Mar-16-07|| ||LIFE Master AJ: The position - with Black to play his 52nd move - would make an excellent "Problem of the day."|
|Mar-26-07|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <LIFE Master AJ: The position - with Black to play his 52nd move - would make an excellent "Problem of the day."> Agreed. It seems about a Saturday-strength puzzle to me. The variations given by McDonald in 'The Art of Planning in Chess' (Batsford, 2006, p. 217) are as follows: 52. ... Bxf2! 53. Qxf2 (53. Qxe4 Qxg3+ 54. Kh1 Qh3#) Qc1 54. Kh3 (54. g4 Qh1+ 55. Kg3 g5!! 56. hxg5 h4#) Qh1+ 55.Qh2 Bf5+ 56. g4 hxg4+ 57. Kg3 Qf3#.|
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