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Viswanathan Anand vs Vladimir Kramnik
MTel Masters (2005)  ·  Russian Game: Classical Attack. Jaenisch Variation (C42)  ·  1-0
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Jun-09-08  LaFreaK: That was a miscalculations,Kramnik thinks that after 17...Qe4,Anand will play 18.Bf1,and offer an exchange of Queens at c2,but he overlook the move 18.Bd1.
Jun-16-08  Abejorral: Deep Kramnik, this time, he decided that he was not going to offer a short draw, but instead blundered

Jun-16-08  lorker: <abejorral> dude seriously, what is your problem? kramnik is only human of course he blunders sometimes. what is your ridiculous statement trying to say? furthermore, it might be too much for you to realize but kramnik does not offer short draws all the time. with white he almost always plays for a win. maybe you do not know enough to have seen gaems like kramnik's game with aronian in wijk aan zee this year, in which he won a long and drawish ending. if he was just going for short draws something like that would never happen. kramnik is one of the best players ever, and one of the hardest to beat. so cut it out with these stupid comments about his draws. a draw is a valid result in chess anyway, and a lot better than a loss in most situations. and anyway, if you played against kramnik, im sorry to say he would neither offer you a short draw, nor make a blunder the way he did with anand. so just cut the crap.
Jun-21-08  LaFreaK: Still,Kramnik is my no.1 idol,i also study his favorite Catalan even in our school.
Jun-25-08  Abejorral: I agree !!! Still Kramnik is my favorite draw master !!
Jul-02-08  Abejorral: <with white he almost always plays for a win>

<lorker> Wait a second, "almost always" ?? thats pretty dumb dude.

What i know for sure is that with black pieces Kramnik ALWAYS PLAYS FOR A DRAW.

Jul-27-08  M.D. Wilson: <What i know for sure is that with black pieces Kramnik ALWAYS PLAYS FOR A DRAW.> Would he play for a draw against you? I doubt it.
Aug-01-08  firefly3: Why is everyone pointing to Qxc4 as a blunder?

It was Qd3 that was the blunder.

Aug-01-08  Udit Narayan: <firefly3> You are correct, 18...Qd3 was the blunder because after 19.Re3 black's queen is trapped and 19...Qxc4 is black's only safe square for the queen, but this also loses by force.
Aug-02-08  firefly3: Actually I take it back. After reading earlier posts on this game, it's been brought to my attention that Kramnik blundered the move before, on Qe4.

It's funny how such an innocent move as Bd1 turns out to be winning.

Sep-03-08  Woody Wood Pusher: Great game, Drawnik offered the draw on move 15 but Anand decided he had the energy to play the next 5 moves for the win.
Sep-26-08  Woody Wood Pusher: HAHAHAHAHA! This game is so good, maybe Drawnik will try and last for 21 moves at Bonn!
Sep-27-08  Cactus: <Woody> A Zapata vs Anand, 1988 HAHAHAHA! <Maybe Drawnand will try and last for 21 moves at Bonn!>

But seriously, it's incredibly silly to point at a players few blunders as proof of the fact that they are 'bad'. In this game, A Zapata vs Anand, 1988 Anand lasts 1/3 as long, and against a player 1/2 as good, because everyone makes mistakes.

Nov-07-08
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  notyetagm: <square dance: kramnik holds a 5-4 classical edge on anand.>

In the immortal words of Inspector Jacques Clouseau, "Not any mir".

Nov-07-08
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  notyetagm: FM Giddins covers the end of this game in the tactics section of his latest book "101 Chess Questions Answered".
Jan-08-09  Bondsamir: with my full respect to Mr.Kramnik's chess style I am still bewildered that Kramnik managed to reach the finals for the world championship. there's somthing mysterious I couldn't figure it out untill now.
Feb-01-09  WhiteRook48: and? The follow-up?
Feb-20-09
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  sleepyirv: <WhiteRook48> In the final position, the rook is forking the knight and bishop.
Mar-24-09  freeman8201: LOL vishy pulled a fast one on Kramnik
Dec-11-10
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  sevenseaman: Really great players leave you with some very unpleasant choices. Exchange of queens is not an issue at all!
Dec-13-10  eyalbd: Nice trap. Anand lures 17..Qe4 after which, black is lost due to Bd1 and the Re5 threat.
Jun-06-11  APatzer: Why is it Anand's notable game ? It is kramnik's notable poor game.
Jan-20-13  smalldreams: It's notable because people have talked about it for 10 pages.
Feb-18-13  FiveofSwords: black loses to tactics in the petroff very often...its very tactical and white has the time advantage. The most embarrasing thing is how simple they often look after they happen...but otb its not so simple to find them because theres so many other options you are also calculating.
Feb-18-13
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  waustad: Actually it is considered notable because it is in several game collections.
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