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|Jul-06-07|| ||noiselesion: yup, I haven't seen the whole game yet but so far at move 26.Ka5, 26...Qb6 is mate.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: It takes a lot of bravery to play these 4.Ng5,d5 variations over the board--for either side. Especially for White, since in addition to the Fritz, Ulvestad and 5...Na5 lines, he also has to worry about 4...Bc5!?. Entertaining for the spectators, though.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||Infohunter: <noiselesion: yup, I haven't seen the whole game yet but so far at move 26.Ka5, 26...Qb6 is mate.>|
Well, not quite, since White can reply with 27.Qxb6. That aside, it's hard to believe that this game was played as recently as 2005.
|Sep-13-07|| ||CapablancaFan: Black almost from the get-go 5...Nd4! let's white know he's not settling for equalization...he want's the initiative! White fails to find the correct path. 11.Bc6? (wins the exchange, but loses everything else.) After 12...Nxg2+! white is stratigically lost. Crazy, wild, and forceful attacking game by black who took control of the game as early as move 5!|
|Sep-13-07|| ||al wazir: What was wrong with 13. Bxg2 ?|
|Sep-13-07|| ||mrbiggs: Is the Fritz variation named after the program? What is it?|
|Sep-13-07|| ||Wolfgang01: Of course, mrbiggs!! The 2-nights-game was a standard-opening in the 19th century. In that time, Fritz was better known as the Chess-Turk.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||King mega: <al wazir: What was wrong with 13. Bxg2 ?>
13.Bxg2 Qxg2 14Rxf1 Ba3|
|Sep-13-07|| ||venk98: WHAT WAS WRONG WITH 34.Kc2?????? in the next move even if queen gets trapped by rook, it can capture the rook which wud hav given white some advantage......and why does white queen not capture black's rook when white plays the bishop move???? can anyone explain with analysis please?|
|Sep-13-07|| ||Shakalul: If 34.Kc2,then 34...Ba4+ 35.Kd3 Bb5 and white loses his queen.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||JohnBoy: What is the Fritz addition to theory here?|
|Sep-13-07|| ||chessgames.com: According to Eric Schiller, the move that defines the Fritz Variation is 5...Nd4. Please note that the Fritz in question is Alexander Fritz and not the computer.|
According to the Opening Explorer : more popular than 5...Nd4 is 5...Na5 (first game 1835). At Hastings 1945, Herman Steiner introduced 5...b5! (see Mieses vs H Steiner, 1945) was has shown great results for Black ever since. Dubious is 5...Nxd5? due to 6.Nxf7! Kxf7 7.Qf3+.
|Sep-13-07|| ||al wazir: <King mega: 13. Bxg2 Qxg2 14. Rf1 Ba3> 15. Qe2. If now 15...Qxf1+, then 16. Qxf1 Bxf1 17. Kxf1 dxc3 18. dxc3=.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||kevin86: What an impudent little pawn! While the queen is captures,the rook threatened,and the king mated-the little pawn marches along,seeming ignorant of the world around him. I almost felt sorry that he couldn't make it to queendom-brcause the lights went out one move too soon.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||Intrepid Spiff: Hi everyone, this is my first post! Can someone tell me if there is any problem with 25...Nc4+ ? Looks like mate in 3 to me: 26. Kb7 Na5+ 27. Kb8 c6#.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||Magic Castle: <Intrepid Stiff> Looks like you failed to consider that the black a7 pawn is en prise.|
|Sep-13-07|| ||pawnofdoom: Haha. Entertainment Tonight (Two Knight). I get it
Crazy king stroll from a weird opening. I wonder how much of it was actually theory.
|Sep-13-07|| ||al wazir: <Intrepid Spiff: 25...Nc4+> 26. Kxa7, and now white threatens 27. Qb8+ and 27. Qxc4 (not much of a threat, but it staves off the mate).|
|Sep-13-07|| ||unixfanatic: 18. ... Qg6!! would have been a lot better. 19. Qf3 (any other move is forced mate) Bg4! 20. Rg1 Qa6 and Black is devastating White.|
And yes, I did find this with the aid of a computer, so I still find the grandmaster's play amazing and brilliant. The possible move is intriguing, though.
|Sep-13-07|| ||melv: As white I would play 5. d5 and 6. Bxf7|
|Sep-13-07|| ||mrbiggs: Alexander Fritz|
Seems to be the namesake.
(And yes, I know that the two knights defense was not made up by Fritz, I just didn't know what the variation was, or when it was invented. It's only a matter of time before computers start making serious contributions to opening theory.)
|Sep-14-07|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: Good Heavens--*the* Spaceman Spiff has joined us?! How was your trip to Planet Zog?|
Can't White just take the a-pawn after 25...Nc4+? What have I overlooked *this* time?
|Sep-14-07|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: Incidentally, why was 5...b5 named after Ulvestad and not Steiner?|
|Sep-14-07|| ||sneaky pete: <An Englishman> Ulvestad published the first analysis (in Handbuch style, tables with notes) of 5... b5 in issue # 2 of Chess Charts, April 1941 (around that time he was drafted, so no further issues appeared). That's where Herman Steiner picked up his novelty (which, in the meantime, may have been played in unpublished games by American amateurs and correspondence players).|
|Sep-16-07|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: <sneaky pete>, *nice* research!|
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