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| Jun-10-05 | | TIMER: 31 Kh4 Qe4+ 32 Rf4 Qh7+ 33 Kg5 Nf7 ++ |
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| Jun-10-05 | | Basti81: <superiorNOshow: Very good a visualization of the board sax posseses. Sax makes a sac.> this time it's farago, who makes the sacīs ^^ |
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| Jun-10-05 | | TIMER: I have to say, looking at the game, Sax set it up himself by opening up his king for his opponent! |
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| Jun-10-05 | | Marco65: <JustAFish> After 30.Kh4 Qxe4+ 31.Rf4 Qh7+ 32.Kg5 there is Nf7# After 30.Kh2 Qh5+ 31.Kg2 Qh3+ 32.Kf2 Qf3+ 33.Kg1 Ne2+ 34.Kh2 I suppose your evaluation  is given by Black not taking the queen but playing 34...Qxf1 with double threats of Qg1# and Qh3#. Finally imho 30.Kg3 Ne2+? doesn't lead to a clear advantage after 31.Kg2 Nxc2 [31...Nxe4? 32.Qe3  ] 32.Nxd6, White has two rooks for the queen, although its king is still very exposed. I prefer 30.Kg3 Qh3+ 31.Kf4 [31.Kf2 Nxe4+ 32.Kg1 Ne2#] 31...Nd2+ 32.Kg5 Nxe4+ 33.Kg6 Nxc1 |
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Jun-10-05
 | | awfulhangover: The winning variations were simply too long for my tiny brain. |
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| Jun-10-05 | | DanRoss53: These two have met three other times. The result? (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...) Three GM draws, none more than thirteen moves. |
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| Jun-10-05 | | Marco65: Of course my lines have to start with 31. not 30. And my line against 31.Kg3 is simply wrong, I visualized my queen in h5, sorry. Does anybody have the winning variation against 31.Kg3 ? |
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| Jun-10-05 | | DanRoss53: <Marco65> After 31. Kg3 Nxe4+!, 32. Kf4 is necessary. 32.  h4  f5+ 33. g4 xf6+ 34. h3 e3+ 35. h4  h5+ 36. g3 xf1+ 37. g2 h2+ 38. xf1  h3# 32.h2 h5+ 33. h4 xh4+ 34. g2 h3+ 35. g1 e2# 32.g2 f2+ 33. h2 h5+ 34. g1 h1+ 35. xf2 f3+ 36. g1 e2+ 37. h2 h3# Then 32... Ne2+ wins the White Queen. |
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| Jun-10-05 | | TIMER: <Marco65> Your second line, instead of 35 ... Qf1, can go Qh3 mate immediately. Also if 31 Kg3 Ne2+ 32 Kg2 Nc1 the knight on e4 is pinned. But maybe 31 Kg3 Ne4+ is best ( if 32 Kf4 now Ne2+, if 32 Kg2 Nd2 disc.+ or 32 Kh2 Qh5+ force mate, if 32 Kh4 Nf5+ 33 Rf5 Qf5 forces mate.) |
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| Jun-10-05 | | Marco65: Thanks <TIMER> and <DanRoss53>. <DanRoss53> There are many sidelines to be examined in your analysis (for instance what if 32.Kh4 Nf5+ 33.Kg4 Nxf6+ 34.Kg5), that's outside my brain power, I just trust you! |
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| Jun-10-05 | | TIMER: <Marco65> 32 Kh4 Nf5+ 33 Kg4 Nf6+ 34 Kg5 Qg3+ 35 Kf6 Qg7 is mate. Although there are various possibilities, it is clear that a king can not defend itself alone against a co-ordinated army! |
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Jun-10-05
| | JustAFish: <After 30.Kh2 Qh5+ 31.Kg2 Qh3+ 32.Kf2 Qf3+ 33.Kg1 Ne2+ 34.Kh2 I suppose your evaluation is given by Black not taking the queen but playing 34...Qxf1 with double threats of Qg1# and Qh3#.> That is what I intended. |
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| Jun-10-05 | | TIMER: I meant 34 .. Qg2+, if 35 Kf4 Qe4+ 36 Kg5 Qg4+ forces it. |
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| Jun-10-05 | | charms: Farago plays sax. |
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| Jun-10-05 | | zinzinnatifan: I have a general question: Where can I play online blitz with decent players? I had a USCF rating of about 1450-1500 30 years ago, and have just started to get back into chess. I tried gameknot, but the competition is for the most part terrible. Thanks in advance. |
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Jun-10-05
| | Nickisimo: zinzin, check out World Chess Network(WCN). I'm about 1600-1700 USCF and always find great competition there. There's also some very good people on there in terms of morals and decency. WCN also does a very good job of cracking down on cheating.
My name on there is Nick Lesniak. If you're on and I say you there we can play a few. I played 27...Rxh2+ 28. Kxh2(28. Kg1?? Ne2+ wins the Queen) 28...Qh5+, preparing to meet 29. Kg3 with Rg8+, although I think the text move is stronger here. |
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Jun-10-05
 | | YouRang: No points for me. I found the first rook sac, but then tried to continue with Qh5+, which leads to some fair threats against white, but I couldn't prove that they led to a win. |
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| Jun-10-05 | | zinzinnatifan: Thanks for help, Nick. I'll check it out. And apologies to the website--I just saw the note requesting general emails to be posted on Kibitzer's Cafe. I'll do that in the future. |
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| Jun-10-05 | | Castle In The Sky: Other good sites for blitz are the ICC (the internet chess club), which has a free trial, but a yearly fee. You can watch a grandmaster blitz game or play game with anyone at virtually any level. The USCF also has online play, which I believe is powered by the ICC. Free chess services are FICS, which is similar to the ICC with less frills and Yahoo, which is also not bad. Most players on yahoo are courteous but its chess program allows for more shenanigans and the graphics, while adequate are not up to the level of the other sites. |
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Jun-10-05
 | | kevin86: Farago beats Sax like a drum! The theme is to chase white's king to g1,g3,or f4-where the coup de grace is employed by the knight at e2. |
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Jun-10-05
| | xxdsdxx: I also looked first at 27...Ne2, but after 28. Qe3 Qh5 29. h3 black had no real continuation that does not lose one of the Knights and a trade down to the end would favor white. Ne2 discarded.
Next on to the Rook sacrifice (OK I'm backwards in my sacrifice thinking). Intersting by but sacrificing one rook does not give black a clear win. I did like the fact that the king was barren and the white pieces we undeveloped so the second rook sacrifice looked plausible. Though I doubt that I would have stumbled across it in a game with the clock running. But here we have the big NEON letters flashing "WIN THIS WAY!"
Without the second rook sacrifice, white has the opportunity to regroup and collect a win. So the question of the day is "Without knowing that this is a "win" for black, how many of us would of had the stones to make the second rook sacrifice OTB?" |
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| Jun-10-05 | | DanRoss53: <Marco65> <...that's outside my brain power...> Well outside my brain power also; my lines came from Crafty 19.3 |
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Jun-10-05
| | metallurgist: i thought : 27...Ne2, followed by Rxh2 and Rh8. How about that? |
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| Jun-10-05 | | crankydoodle: After studying a lot of positions, you kind of get the feeling for which move to look at first. I caught on to the 27...Rxh2+ pretty quickly, but the entire variation takes some time. In any case, Black has a nice mating net after the move, so I kind of cheated and went with Rxh2+ without that many calculations:P |
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Jun-13-05
 | | patzer2: Here is an analysis with the ChessGames.com Opening Explorer and Fritz 8: <1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 Ne7 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. Nf3 Qa5 8. Bd2
Bd7 9. Be2> This was a novelty when it was played in this game. <9...Ba4>
Worthy of consideration is 9...Nbc6 as in Balashov vs I Naumkin, 1991 <10. O-O c4 11. Ng5 h6 12. Nh3 Nbc6
13. f4 O-O-O 14. g4?!> This is a little too loosening. Better is 14. Rb1!, when
play might have continued 14... Nf5 15. Nf2 Kb8 16. Bh5 Rhf8 17. Bg4 Ka8 18. Re1 Rb8
19. Qc1 Nce7 20. Nd1 Rg8 21. Ne3 Nxe3 22. Rxe3  with White holding a small edge.
<14...f5 15. exf6 gxf6 16. f5 e5 17. Be1 Kb8 18.
Qc1 Nc8!> With this subtle maneuver, Black begins to undermine White's weak
and overextended pawns. <19. dxe5> No improvement for White is 19. Rb1 Nd6
20. Bf3 Rh7 21. Kh1 Rg8 22. Bg3 h5 23. gxh5 Nxf5 24. dxe5 fxe5 25. Qd2 Nxg3+
26. hxg3 Nd4 27. Bd1 Rxg3 28. Rf8+ Kc7 29. Nf4 Bd7 30. Qe1 exf4 31. Qe5+ Kc6
32. Qxd4 b6 33. Rxf4 Rhg7 34. Rf3 Qxa3 35. Rxg3 Rxg3 36. Qf6+ Qd6 37. Qxd6+
Kxd6 <19... fxe5 20. Kh1 Nd6 21. g5 hxg5 22. Nxg5 Rdf8 23. f6 d4>
Black has an easier and more straight forward win after 23... Rh6! 24. f7 Qd8 25. Qd2
Qe7 26. Bf2 (26. Qxd5?? Qxg5 ) 26... d4 27. cxd4 c3 28. Qc1 (28. Qxc3?? Qxg5
29. dxe5 Ne4 30. Qf3 Nxe5 31. Qxe4 Bc6 ) 28... Nxd4 29. Bxd4 exd4 30. Bg4
Rg6 31. h4 Rh6 32. Qf4 Rxh4+ 33. Kg2 Bxc2 <24. cxd4 Qd5+ 25. Bf3 e4 26.
Nxe4 Nxd4 27. Bg2> Also failing for White is 27. Bg3 Nxf3! 28. Qf4 (28.
Rxf3 Qxe4 ) 28... Ka8! (28... Qxe4?? 29. Qxe4 ) 29. Nc3 Qh5
30. Qxf3! Qxf3+ 31. Rxf3 Bc6! 32. Bxd6 Rxf6 33. Raf1 (33. Be5? Rxf3 34. Bxh8??
Rf1#) 33... Bxf3+ 34. Kg1 Rxd6 35. Rxf3 <27... Rxh2+!!> is the daily puzzle solution
<28. Kxh2 Rh8+ 29. Bh3> If 29. Kg1??, then 29...Ne2+ wins for Black. <29... Rxh3+!>
An interesting but much less effective
alternative for Black is 29... Bd7!? 30. Qf4
Rxh3+ 31. Kg2 Ka8! 32. f7! Nxf7 33. Rd1! Rh5 34. Rf3! Rf5 35. Qg3 Qxe4
36. Rxd4 Qe2+ 37. Qf2 Rg5+ 38. Kh1 Qe6 39. Rg3 Rh5+ 40. Kg1 Qe8 41. Re3 Ne5 42.
Qg3 Rh3 43. Rxe5 Rxg3+ 44. Bxg3 Qg6 45. Re3 Qb6 46. c3 Bc6 47. Kf1 Qb1+ 48. Re1
Qf5+ 49. Bf4 a5  <30. Kxh3 Bd7+> 0-1 and White resigned. Play might have continued
31. Kh2 [31. Kg3 Nxe4+ 32. Kg2 Nd2+ 33. Kh2 (33. Kg1 Ne2+; 33. Kg3 Ne2+) 33... Qh5+ 34. Kg2
Qh3+ 35. Kf2 Ne4+ 36. Kg1 Ne2#] 31... Qh5+ 32. Kg3 (32. Kg1 Ne2+) 32... Qg4+
33. Kh2 [33. Kf2 Qf3+ 34. Kg1 Ne2+ 35. Kh2 Qh3#] 33... Qh3+ 34. Kg1 Ne2+ 35.
Kf2 Nxe4+ 36. Kxe2 Bg4+ 37. Rf3 Qxf3# 0-1
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sac: 27...Rxh2+