|Jan-04-07|| ||LoveThatJoker: Beautiful game by Schubert.|
|Jan-04-07|| ||think: Wow! 21...fxg3 - dubious? Black has only two pieces for the queen, but a better position; I think White could have held.|
|Jan-04-07|| ||somitra: <think> yes, I too think so. Instead of 24 Qh4, white could have played 24 dxe5 and then its difficult to win for white.|
|Jan-04-07|| ||Honza Cervenka: <Wow! 21...fxg3 - dubious?> No, it was a desperate attempt in lost position which surprisingly succeeded after some inacccuracies of white. 16...f5 was a blunder from black's part. The problem is that after 17.d4! black cannot play 17...e4 due to 18.Bb3 Qd6 19.Bf4! (diagram) Qxf4 20.Bxe6+ Kh8 21.Bxd7 exf3 22.Qxf3 and white wins a piece.|
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Of course, alternatives of 21...fxg3 would have been hopeless, for example 21...Qc4 22.Bxf4 Bxf4 23.Bxa8 Qxe2 24.Rxe2 Bc4 25.Re7 Rd8 26.Bc6 (diagram) etc.
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|Jan-04-07|| ||Chess Carnival: Certainly the pun is not about Schubert's 8th Symphony, the so-called "Unfinished Symphony".|
|Jan-04-07|| ||Hoozits: Why was 34.Rxf1 necessary?|
|Jan-04-07|| ||ax2kool: nice sac...|
|Jan-04-07|| ||Sularus: Frantisek, sage, rosemary and thyme.
Anyway, were i white and seeing those black pieces aimed at my king, i would have played
24. QxR + followed by
25. PxB then free my bishop by moving it to a3. then Rad1. But then again, im just a patzer.
|Jan-04-07|| ||kevin86: Nice game by Schubert. BTW,while one of his symphonies was unfinished-there is an equally famous one,the ninth,that has a long and very powerful conclusion. This game fits THAT symphony well.|
Nice queen sacrifice by black-though eventually,he ends up ahead in material:a rook and two bishops for the queen.
|Jan-04-07|| ||kevin86: PS-I also have heard from some sources that the "Unfinished" Symphony is a misnomer-that Schubert really meant to write ONLY two movements.|
|Jan-04-07|| ||aragorn69: <Honza> After 17.-e4?, there is another, more obvious win with 18.Nxe4. This is probably what both both players saw during the game, rather than your pretty 18.Bb3 Qd6 19.Bf4!|
|Jan-04-07|| ||ClassZPlaya: Hoozits: White plays 34. Rxf1 because if 34. Kh1 Bf2 threatens Ng3+ which would force loss of Queen for the Knight. So after 34. Kh1 Bf2, White would play 35. Rxf1 anyway.|
|Jan-04-07|| ||nimzo knight: This is a typical case of passive play by side with material advantage. Frankly, I did it just yesterday at yahoo ;).
In my opinion White lacked a strategy to bring home advantage.
I would suggest following ideas.
1. Exchange the bishop to destroy the pair. (25. a4 followed by Ba3)
2. Sacrifice Rook for black square bishop. This makes white's black square bishop very strong. (25. Re7)
What kind of continuations will you guys suggest.
|Jan-04-07|| ||Jackz: 25.Bxh6 seems like a good move. White sends out a piece, and destroys Black's defense. In addition, the White rooks protect the back rank.|
Follow-up would be 25...gxh6 and 26.Qg4, forking the knight and the king.
|Jan-04-07|| ||Chess Carnival: <kevin86: PS-I also have heard from some sources that the "Unfinished" Symphony is a misnomer-that Schubert really meant to write ONLY two movements.> Very curious.. Do you have a link or something?? tnxs!|
|Jan-05-07|| ||kevin86: <chess carnival> No I remember reading about Schubert several years ago-before there even was an internet (not that long,mind you,about twenty years or so.)|