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| Stevens: I got this in about 30 secs. The queen sac was obvious when you know that white is to play and win, but it when i saw Re8 mate if the queen doesn't take the rook that i knew the combination worked. <marco65> yes, Dan Heismans articles are excellent. You can download the whole archive at chesscafe to read at you leisure. Well worth it. |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| halcyonteam: easy, less than 5 sec and i got it |
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| euripides: 8...Nf6 seems to be unusual and, combined with 9...Qb8, provokes e5 after which Black's position becomes loose, though it takes 16 Bxb5 ! to exploit it. 16...Bb7 is effectively met by 17 Qe4. After 16...Bd7 there are many tempting possibilities; in the absence of a forced win one attractive option is 17 Rxd7 Kxd7 18 Rd1+ Kc7 19 Bxc6 when White will have at least a pawn and a powerful attack for the exchange (if 19...Kxc6 White can at least win the knight back by Qc4+ or Nd4+). |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| erimiro1: <eurpides> Agree with your analysis. Also I have to mention, that 15. N:b5! was a strategic combination that made the game, while the puzzle itself was an easy one in a winning position. Black managed the opening badly. Go back to the 14th. move and take a look at the poor Queen that couldn't find itself a comfortable place but b8, the knight at g4, and the King at the center of the board. |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| hayton3: Black erred on move 11. with d6, prematurely challenging in the centre. To stay in the game <11...b5> had to be played <12.Na4 d6 13.exd6 Bxd6 14.Bxd6 Qxd6 15.Rad1 Qc7>. The point being the displaced white knight can no longer come to d5 to harrass the Queen on c7 nor attack b5 in unison with the bishop. |
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| patzer2: White's 26. Qxf8+! is a pseudo-sacrifice of the Queen utilizing the deflection tactic to force the King to a square (f8), where Black will either be mated (i.e. 26...Kxf8 27. Rd8+ Ke7 28. Re8#) or lose decisive material (i.e. 26...Kxf8 27. Rd8+ Qxd8 28. Rxd8+ Ke7 29. Rxc8  ). |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| Marco65: <marco78> Hey, there can only be one Marco from Italy here :-) |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| Marco65: <marco78> Anyway, I think on 16...Bb7 17.Qc4 attacking both knights is very good for White, e.g. 16...Bb7 17.Qc4 Nge5 18.Nxe5 Qxe5 19.Bxc6+. While on 16...Bd7 White could play 17.Rxe7 Kxe7 18.Rd1+ Kc7 19.Qc4. In both cases with material advantage (the 3 connected pawns) and an attack. |
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| patzer2: White's 15. Nxb5!? axb5 16. Bxb5 is an interesting positional sacrifice, which sets up a pin to either win decisive material (as in the game) or force a strong attack (i.e. 16...Bd7 17. Rxd7!  , as suggested by <euripides> above). |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| mymt: dont like 6. ...Qb6 with its latter 9. ...Qb8 .Instead 6. ...Ne7 7.0-0 Nbc6 eg Anatoliy Polivanov vs Savon, 2002 |
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| beenthere240: Another combination rule is the adage: "never overlook a check, it might be mate." Here's it not mate, but the check initiates a forced sequence that leaves black busted. |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| Koster: Must be the week for obvious queen sacrifices. Black's rating looks about 300 points too high. |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| pubs r us: I saw the rule of combinations given in "How to Reassess Your Chess". IMO, there should be a fourth rule having to do with discovered attacks. |
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| kevin86: After the series of exchanges,white picks up the bishop at c8 and wins. |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| ConspTheory06: After 16...Bd7 17.Qc4 wins outright. It keeps the material advantage. |
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| euripides: <consp> in that line how does White do better than 16...Bd7 17 Qc4 Nge5 18 Nxe5 Nxe5 19 Bxd7+ Nxd7 20 Qc6 Qc8 and Black seems to hang on to the extra piece ? |
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| artemis: The position after 25. ... e5 is one that, even ignoring the tactical attack, one must see that white has a huge advantage. The extra pawn gives a material advantage, the active bishop vs. undeveloped black bishop, the connected passed pawns, the magnificently placed queen and the doubled rooks on an open file all scream to say that white could win this by playing normal, solid chess. What is generally the case in these types of positions is that the tactical ideas will revolve around the extra powerful pieces that you have on the board. The doubled rooks, the immensly powerful queen and the active bishop are all better than the black counterparts and therefore they are all itching to be used in a combination. Several months ago I would have used this line of thought, but with such a famous theme, I might have played Qxf8 at the board before calculating (not literally) since it is almost a picturesque position for such a sacrifice. |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| alexandrovm: 26. Qxf8 KxQ 27. Rd8+ Qxd8 (if ...Ke7 28. Re8#) 28. Rxd8+ Ke7 29. Rxc8; and white is up a piece, and a pawn; so white should win. |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| alexandrovm: <less than 5 sec and i got it>Gosh, so many post like this one, this site is full of GM's :) Anyhow, I think is better to post the answer that you calculated rather than telling us in how much time you got it, who cares? :) Just an opinion... |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| Stevens: But if you got the right answer everyone knows already because it's what was played in the game! I post my answer if it's wrong otherwise i try to give an indication of how i arrived at the correct solution. I try to be a bit more informative than just " i got it in x seconds" |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| Halldor: Amusing puzzle and straightforward.
<alexandrovm: <less than 5 sec and i got it> Gosh, so many post like this one,...> I've never been as fast!!! |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| alexandrovm: <Stevens:...I post my answer if it's wrong otherwise i try to give an indication of how i arrived at the correct solution...> I think that's the best way to do it. To post the answer that you think is right (also, if possible, commenting why are you chosing some line), then look at the solution. If you got it right, then congrats, if you got it wrong, analyze and post why it was your answer wrong. Making mistakes is how we learn. But when I read posts like <I got it in x or y seconds>, hmmm, what for? It's not a useful information. Just an opinion :). |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| Joshua01: <euripides> 16...Bd7 allows Rxd7 followed by Q-c4. An uncastled king on an open line, his queen on b8, unconnected rooks, a couple of hanging knights, and the enemy queen on c4. Hmmm. I would think black would be happy to give the piece back! |
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| Jul-05-05 |
| goldthread: If one follows the rule: "analyze all forcing moves" one looks at Qf8 and there it is. |
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| euripides: <Joshua> thanks. I actually suggested 16...Bd7 17 Rxd7 followed by Rd1+ and Qc4 in an earlier posting. In the posting you refer to I was responding to the suggestion of 16...Bd7 17 Qc4, which <Consp> offered as 'winning outright'. |
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sac: 26.Qxf8+
