|Jul-06-12|| ||Poisonpawns: GOTD! definitely. Starting White to move at move 36.This is one of those games that show a players will to win. It probably would have been a draw, but Vaganian continues to set problems for his opponent to deal with. 36.Qxd5! was an excellent blow, which probably sent all kinds of conflicting emotions through his opponent.You can see Schmidt starts to play hyper aggressively, as he probably felt he had good winning chances, both players make some mistakes, but in the complications the stronger player prevailed. Another interesting fact is that Vaganian could have won the Queen back and went into an ending with two knights and Rook vs two rooks, but he rejected it.I would love to hear some analysis.|
|Jul-06-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: <Poisonpawns> Truly excellent find!|
GOTD: Wlodz, Sweat & Tears
|Dec-12-12|| ||rilkefan: I would have punned "Wlodzschmerz" but I guess that's at least as obscure or stretched as the above.|
|Dec-12-12|| ||rilkefan: I'm a bit surprised black didn't play ...f6 at various points in the middlegame.|
|Dec-12-12|| ||al wazir: The finale is not exactly obvious, in my opinion: 47...Qxe5 48. Ng8+ Kh5 (48...Kg5 49. h4+ Kg4/Kh5 50. Nf6+) 49. Rxh7+ Kg5 50. h4+ Kg4 51. f3#.|
|Dec-12-12|| ||AylerKupp: I'll say. There are probably many ways to win. I saw 47...Qxe5 48.Rxh7+ Kg5 49.f4+ and either 49...Qxf4 50.gxf4+ Kxf6 or 47...Qxe5 48.Rxh7+ Kg5 49.f4+ Kxf6 50.fxe5+ Kxe5, in either case a rook up with an easy win. But yours is much quicker and better.|
|Dec-12-12|| ||5hrsolver: why not 40..RxN|
|Dec-12-12|| ||morfishine: <al wazir> On your comment <The finale is not exactly obvious, in my opinion: 47...Qxe5 48. Ng8+> |
Not 48.Ng8+ but 48.Rxh7+ Kg5 49.f4+ Kxf6 50.fxe5+ Kxe5 and White wins, up a rook
|Dec-12-12|| ||Abdel Irada: What a knightmare this turned out to be for Black.|
|Dec-12-12|| ||Ratt Boy: I imagine many readers will recognize the name of the rock band in today's pun. How many know of the history of that phrase?|
|Dec-12-12|| ||Abdel Irada: Interesting link, <Ratt Boy>.|
I knew about the Churchill speech, but not of its antecedents. Apparently I gave W.C. too much credit for originality.
|Dec-12-12|| ||Razgriz: Wow, wow, wow. Just wow.|
|Dec-12-12|| ||PawnSac: < Abdel Irada: What a knightmare this turned out to be for Black.>|
What? nobody going to acknowledge the pun? "knight" "mare". Actually it was a <pair> of knight mares.
This game is a good example of what happens when put two determined females together. <G>
|Dec-12-12|| ||Fusilli: <al wazir: The finale is not exactly obvious, in my opinion: 47...Qxe5 48. Ng8+ Kh5 (48...Kg5 49. h4+ Kg4/Kh5 50. Nf6+) 49. Rxh7+ Kg5 50. h4+ Kg4 51. f3#.>|
In your parenthesis line, not 50. Nf6+, which allows Black to sac the queen. Instead, 50.f3+ and 51.Rxh7 mate, or 50.Rxh7+ and 51.f3 mate, depending on where Black moves the king.
<morf> Seeing the loss of the queen would be enough for Black to resign, but forced mate is always better, no?
|Dec-12-12|| ||kevin86: White will win a queen and the game.|
|Dec-12-12|| ||PawnSac: < Poisonpawns: Starting White to move at move 36. … > |
Why not Qxd5 on move 34?
It’s difficult to determine what was actually going on over the board as far as the players psychological disposition.
As far as my own thinking, I’m not playing a 40 in 2. When looking at these games, my brain is for the most part in “blitz mode”. I’m just having fun looking for interesting ideas, until of course there arises a position that merits a deeper look, then I shift gears a little. So while playing through the game, when I reached the position before white’s 34th I immediately smiled and thought, “Cool! There’s an interesting idea, Qxd5!” I envisioned the 7th rank invasion and figured that if the black queen moved anywhere but f8, f6, or e6 the doubling of the rooks on the 7th would put his lights out. The question was.. “Will a direct forcing attack by white strong enough? or does he need to dig deeper?” It seemed that after a move such as Qe6, Rxf7+ either the rooks would be doubled or black would have to give back the queen, in which case white would have a knight and pawn for his rook. But after Rc7+ Kg8 (to guard the H pawn) white can hop the knight around and get play.. i.e., Nc5 b5 Nd7 with the double attack on Rb8 and f6. The Nf6+ is good for at least a draw, but there is probably more there. (I didn't notice at the time that after Nd7 black can play Re7 which changes some things). So I just figured there’s probably something good there, and clicked for whites move fully expecting Qxd5, but was disappointed when I saw Rb1. I figured “oh well, I must have overlooked something”, but after the next 2 moves it appeared that:
a) black would be content with the draw, being the lower rated player, and
b) it’s hard to conceive that white did not see the idea immediately on move 34
c) since we don’t know what was happening with the time clocks,
white may have been testing the waters while using intermezzo moves to consume blacks time while he was processing the idea more deeply..
Maybe white was waiting to see if black would further weaken his position before he actually played the Qxd5 sac. Who knows. These things are only known by people who were actually there, or by asking the players.
|Dec-12-12|| ||PawnSac: 36. ..Qf6 (forced)
why does black step into the fork? He really has no choice.
The queen must guard f7 from one of 3 squares.. e6, f6, or f8.
To abandon f7 allows the deadly rook doubling on the 7th. So…
a) ..Qf6 37.Nd7 Qa6 the queen counter attacks Nd3
b) ..Qf8 37.Nd7 Qg8 puts the black queen out of play since Qd6 hangs f7 (Rxf7+ and R1c7)
c) ..Qe6 37.Nf4 Qf6 38.Nxd5 Qe6 39.Nf4 Qf6 40.Nd7 Qa6 black has dropped a pawn and Nd3 counter attack is no longer there.
black chose the best of the 3 options
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