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Magnus Carlsen vs Atle Groenn
"Groenn in Agony" (game of the day Aug-02-09)
Norwegian Championship 2005  ·  Semi-Slav Defense: Anti-Moscow Gambit (D43)  ·  1-0


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Aug-02-09
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  Open Defence: I hate to see a Groenn man cry...
Aug-02-09
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  tamar: <Open Defence: I hate to see a Groenn man cry...>

Ladies and Gentlemen, from Norway, The Roellen Stoennes

Aug-02-09   Dr4Gun: a complete amazing attack !

magnus ftw

Aug-02-09   chesskingqph: I think Black contributed a lot to his own loss. Carlsen developed all the pieces after 10th move, while Groenn was too late: the whole Queen side to do and his King also. But we have to say the pressure on c3 had been handled brilliantly by Carlsen.
Aug-02-09
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  Sem: All those Black Bishop moves - I can see Dr Tarrasch shake his head.
Aug-02-09
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  SuperPatzer77: Instead of 23...Kxe6, 23...Kd8, 24. Qxd6+ Ke8, 25. Qc6+ Kd8, 26. Qxa8 Ke8, 27. Qxc8+ Qd8, 28. Qc6+ Qd7, 29. Qxd7# 1-0

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Aug-02-09   CXMjonnes: nice game
Aug-02-09
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  Chessmensch: Magnus Atled his cage.
Aug-02-09
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  Chessmensch: I agree with <percyblakeney>. What was Groenn thinking with 16..b6?
Aug-02-09   Samagonka: I had to scroll down the comments to see if I had commented already since the game looks familiar. The mate is quite phenomenal, to say the least.
Aug-02-09   nevski: Groeen violated the most elementary rules of chess!He payed a price for it. Great game by M. Carlsen!
Aug-02-09   bengalcat47: He was obviously Groenning in agony after this defeat!
Aug-02-09   drnooo: I dont get all the talk about how brilliant the mate is. There was at least another after black queen takes the bishop, right starting with white withdrawing his bishop in discovery, one one move for black, then rook takes with check and mate. Not as pretty, but pretty fast. Also the knight sac is so forcing after that, that yep, it looks like a Morphy game, but then everybody always complains that Morphy was always never playing real masters except Andersen and a few others, so here too Carlsen is playing way under his class. He struts his real stuff in his famous game against Shirov early on, etc. Each to his own, for sure, but he is much much much more impressive against the super grandmasters.
Aug-02-09   kingfu: The game of the day should be based on something other than a stupid reference involving the loser's name. We should be more intelligent. Is Carlsen shaving, yet?
Aug-02-09
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  SirChrislov: I hate to see a game end so soon with black's rooks still immobilized, just sittin' far away in the corner like two dumb old elephants. What do you need your heavy artillery for if you're not going to use it?

Black's play in this game was just UGLY. He deserves a kick in the Groenn.

I'm sorry but not worthy of GOTD.

Aug-02-09   AnalyzeThis: This game is like Morphy vs. amatuer.
Aug-02-09   WhiteRook48: no this game is like Anderssen/Morphy/Steinitz vs amateur
Aug-02-09
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  Moondoll: After move 16, Black has exactly 2 pieces developed, with a handful of pawn moves, while White's entire camp is poised for attack!
Aug-02-09
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  Moondoll: <Chessmensch: I agree with <percyblakeney>. What was Groenn thinking with 16..b6?> Fritz11 agrees also giving b6 a ?? and indicates the more natural "0-0 'saving the game'" would have been more prudent.
Aug-02-09   alayo: I propose to name the final mating pattern: Carlsen's Mate! A combined effort between the rook at f7, the pawn at d4, the enemy bishop (only a bishop - any other piece would have defended the king) blocking the king at d6 and the queen (or bishop for that matter) delivering mate from c4.
Aug-02-09   ROO.BOOKAROO: And, further, what was Groenn thinking with 18. ...Qh5? Why not castle immediately, 18. ...0-0? Black would still have defensive potential, underdeveloped as he may still be.
Aug-03-09
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  kevin86: the mate is unusual. The queen mates as well as holds the rook.
Aug-03-09
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  Chessmensch: Thanks <Moondoll>. I can't get my Fritz to run on my new Vista Enterprise 64-bit. The vendor won't help. What are you running it on and do you have any suggestions?
Oct-01-09
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  hardliner: Manus was 14 when playing this game. A bit unfair to compare it with later games against the super GMs
Oct-10-09   pts92: I find the mating position extreamely beautiful. Carlsen's play as a kid looks like Morphy's at his prime. Maybe I exagerate a bit, but Carlsen seems a worthy succesor of the great Morphy.
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