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Jul-11-05
 | | Hesam7: <Montreal1666, Knight13> Just click on the link "games similar to this one" below the applet. :-) |
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Jul-11-05
 | | Shams: why not 21.Qh4
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| Jul-11-05 | | Montreal1666: Ok <Hesam7:> thanks. I didn't know that it gives you the novelty there. Still there could be games like this in other databases. |
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Jul-11-05
| | Hesam7: <Montreal1666> You are welcome. The chessgames.com database is far from complete. More complete databases: http://www.chesslive.de
http://www.newinchess.com |
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| Jul-11-05 | | Montreal1666: <Hesam7:> Well http://www.chesslive.de is too slow. Can you check for novelties in:
http://www.newinchess.com |
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| Jul-11-05 | | fgh: <Shams>: There is nothing wrong with 21. Qh4, but after 21. Qh4 h6 22. Rg3 Kh8! 23. Re1 f5! 24. exf5 exf5 25. Rxe8 Rxe8 black might even stand better, since white's attack has been neutralised. |
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| Jul-11-05 | | Dres1: that was the fanciest trading of pieces ever |
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| Jul-11-05 | | Dres1: seems like it was a worthless endeavor for white, all he got was to lose a tempo with his queen. |
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| Jul-11-05 | | Koster: 25 moves out of these two is a pretty long game. 4 more moves than Leko-Adams. |
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| Jul-11-05 | | Knight13: <Hesam> Chessgames.com's pupose is NOT to make a complete database but to make a database with important games or good games or games from good (strong) tournaments, not from thoes boring ones like 2100 vs 2000 or 2200 vs 2100 games, included in other databases. |
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Jul-11-05
| | Hesam7: <Knight13> I know, but chessgames.com sometimes misses even important games as well. Beside that you can find good opening ideas even among weak players. <Dres1> Funny avatar! |
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Jul-11-05
 | | tpstar: Please allow me to represent all "weak" 2000-2200 players = that overly maligned group of chess enthusiasts who know a great deal about the game but haven't quite achieved master level. If you don't want to review "those boring ones" then don't. Thank you. |
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| Jul-11-05 | | fgh: <tpstar>: Can I also represent them? |
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| Jul-12-05 | | farrooj: lol, do whatever you want |
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Jul-12-05
 | | jamesmaskell: ooooooooh, dissing di two fhazzands innit... Its like propa bad like. |
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Jul-14-05
 | | patzer2: I thought the 17. Nd5!?combination to trade Knights was amusing. Obviously, Black can't take it as 17...exd5?? 18. exd5  is a winning double attack, threatening the Queen and mate. Neither can black take the Bishop with 17...Nxd3, due to the threatened Knight Fork 18. Ne7 winning the Queen. So Black plays the neat defensive move 17...Ng6!protecting against the Fork, defending the Queen and forcing 18. Ne7+ Nxe7 19. Qxe7 with a very defendable Black position. |
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Jul-14-05
| | patzer2: <tpstar> Please count me among those who doesn't find games by experts boring. Often Experts play a lot of the old or out of fashion openings that you don't see much of in GM play (e.g.. gambits etc.). They also provide a labatory for testing new opening ideas that strong masters later pick up. Additionally, some experts may be on their way to becoming Masters, and it's not uncommon to see an expert occasionally win a well played game from a Master. |
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Jul-15-05
| | tpstar: <patzer2> Thanks for saying that. I don't mean to be so prude or even hypersensitive, but I cannot believe this disdain for chessplayers who are "only" 2000 or "only" 2200, especially from folks way below that level in the first place. Sure we aren't 2600, but who is?! Here's one of "those boring ones" between a 2000 and a 2100 - see what ya think, G = John Wygrecki vs T Palmer, 1983 |
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Jul-15-05
 | | lostemperor: <tpstar: Please allow me to represent all "weak" 2000-2200 players> I didn't know that. That's pretty darn strong to me. I think that's the line separate the men from the boys. The punch line from your stock joke :) |
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| Sep-02-05 | | Jaymthetactician: I think this game has some nice influence on me from the black side of the board. I really like Kramniks 9...Qxc6! 10...Bb7 11...Bd6 formation, allthough 11...Bd6 would block the pawn, before studying this game I'd play 11...Be7 12...0-0 and 13...d5. Well, 2000-2200 players are relatively weak as compared to super-GM and World champions in the post 1960's era. But to the general public are really quite strong (hence the better then 98% of all chessplayers) That would the equivalent of me calling a typical mensan "dumb" because I'm far removed from the 98th %ile in that field, yet typical Mensans are smarter then 98% of the general public, while i'm smarter then 99.99% of the general public, but you dont hear me say "dumb mensan" as that would be rude. |
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| Sep-02-05 | | Cochrane: This its a classic, a draw between the BEST DRAW MASTERS,!!!!!!!!! they are both still exhausted after the Mini-Math!! |
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| Sep-02-05 | | Jaymthetactician: I like how Kramnik plays what you would call "an aggressive drawing game" as he is a strong tactician with deadly accuracy. And this accuracy and strong technique, allthough he'd prefer to play to win, he winds up drawing as he play's people that are roughly equal to him, hence the draws (I wont say Leko is better then Kramnik or vice-versa, as there so evenly matched at the highest level that alot of draws are inevitable). |
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| Sep-02-05 | | Wertheimer: This game should be in THE GAME OF THE DAY, with the following tittles: "Clash of Drawers"
" Marshalling the draw"
"Drawish Tales"
" Kramnik at his best"
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| Sep-02-05 | | Wertheimer: I made a mistake in my last post, Kramnik was not at his best, when he its in his best form he offer a draw after 8 moves. |
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| Sep-02-05 | | Jaymthetactician: Kramniks drawing ability in tough positions is sure worthy of praise. Where most would lose he draws. Kramnik is the perfect chessplayer to model oneself after. The Kramnik-Leko matches are allways something to be exited about. Allways alot to learn. |
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