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Salvador Alonso vs Martin Daneri
American Continental Championship 2005  ·  Elephant Gambit: Paulsen Countergambit (C40)  ·  1-0


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Jun-12-07   Helios727: I don't see the point of using a dubious gambit against a player rated 237 points higher than you.
Jun-12-07
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: You mean, it would've been preferable to play Ruy Lopez and hope White couldn't convert his advantage both on the board and in the mind? I'd rather say there's not much point in trying to salvage a draw in a positional opening the opponent probably has better understanding of. One might as well create sharp play and take the opponent off his book. Sure enough, it didn't work out well, but it was a sensible try.
Jun-12-07
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  Open Defence: < SwitchingQuylthulg: You mean, it would've been preferable to play Ruy Lopez and hope White couldn't convert his advantage both on the board and in the mind? > who said the Ruy gave White the advantage ?
Jun-12-07
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <Open Defence> White has a nice enough winning percentage in games between equals, let alone games between 2450 and 2200. White's edge is very slight of course, but that's not the point; I was pointing out that one can't guarantee a draw just by playing Ruy Lopez.
Jun-12-07   Helios727: I think the French or Caro-Kann would make more sense in this situation. Sure white still has the higher rating and the advantage of being white, but black has a better fighting chance of getting the draw with one of those openings.
Jun-13-07
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  Open Defence: <switch> are you talking about winning % in recent times or over the history of chess.. the Ruy has been around for a fairly long time you know... there are a lot of equal positions like say the Petrov that offer practical chances... some even inferior positions like the ones Korchnoi used to play in the French that actually offer practical chances to win.. I seriously doubt the Ruy hands White an advantage...
Jun-14-07   Helios727: I would think that sharper play would only favor the higher rated opponent.
Dec-14-07   psmith: Black missed a chance for a good game with 23...f3! 24. Bxf3 Nxc4. So maybe there was a point to his play after all.
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