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|Sep-22-05|| ||Gazman5: but having 2.Qh5 named as the Nakamura attack would be like having a defence like the Damiano defence named after you...surely its better to find some sound theoretical innovation than to become infamous for something utterly unsound, which you always lost when you played it...|
|Sep-22-05|| ||cu8sfan: <chessgames.com> How often is the opening explorer updated? This game is not to be found yet. I'm not insinuating you're doing a bad job, I'm just curious.|
|Sep-22-05|| ||chessgames.com: It's updated at least once a week, but usually more frequently when new games are entering the system. The very newest games, like this one, sometimes won't show up.|
|Sep-22-05|| ||alexmagnus: Can somebody tell me what if
|Sep-22-05|| ||euripides: 18 f4 might be met by 18...Qxf4 and I don't think White has improved his position e.g. 19 Bb3+ Kh8 20 Qxh4 Qf2+ 21 Kd1 exd3 22 Qh5 g6 or 22 Re1 Nf5.|
|Sep-22-05|| ||acirce: I'm not sure but it seems White may survive with best play after 18.f4, although without necessarily solving all his problems -- for example 18..exf3 19.Bxf3 Bg2 20.Bxg2! Qf2+ 21.Kd1 Qxg2 22.Re1 Nf5 23.Nc4|
or 18..exf4 19.Qxh4! Qxh4 20.gxh4 f3 21.Rf1 Rae8 22.dxe4 Nxe4 23.Rxf3 Ng3+ 24.Ne4 Nxe4 25.Rxh3 Nf2+ 26.Kd2 Nxh3 27.Bb3+ Kh8 28.bxc5 and it's a bit unclear but it certainly seems White shouldn't lose. Just a couple of sample lines produced with Fritz assistance.
18..Qxf4? is clever but 19.Nxe4! and White's winning instead.
On 6.Bg5, 6..Qb6 is annoying.
|Sep-22-05|| ||tamar: <acirce> 18 f4 exd3 and I think the computers initially underestimate the constriction around White's King.|
For example Shedder was enamored of 19 bxc5 for about 10 minutes before the dime dropped. That line: 18 f4 exd3 19 bxc5 exf4! and White has to give up material to make squares for the King.
Similarly, 18 f4 exd3 and if 19 Bb3+ Kh8 20 Qxh4 exf4 21 Qxf6 Rxf6 22 Kf2 (what else?) Re8 23 Bd1 c4 and Black won't lose, but the clincher may take many more moves.
18 f4 is quite an interesting resource for White though when his position looked hopeless. Are there other ways to play after 18 f4 exd3
|Sep-23-05|| ||acirce: <tamar> yes that's interesting, 18..exd3 may well be Black's best. An alternative line is 19.Qxh4 immediately: 19..Qe6 (19..exf4 20.Qxf6 Rxf6 21.bxc5 or 19..Qxh4 20.gxh4 seems to work for White here) 20.f5! Qxf5 21.g4 Qf4 22.Qg3 Qe3+ 23.Qxe3 dxe3 24.bxc5 Nxb5 25.Bb3+ Kh8 26.Nc4 d2+ 27.Bxd2 exd2+ 28.Nxd2/Kxd2 - but White has very good chances to survive.|
|Sep-23-05|| ||mang00neg: Obviously 2. Qh5 does not have a lot going for it, but imo naka didn't lose because of his opening selection. Rather, he was simply outplayed.|
|Sep-24-05|| ||tamar: <acirce> Your line appears best against
18...exd3. The f5 push and g4 follow-up force Black to attack just before he is ready, and may draw.|
|Sep-24-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Nak got crushed.
|Sep-25-05|| ||blingice: Why? He's up a bishop and he has moves.
Why not Kg1?
|Sep-25-05|| ||810609: <blingice> Bishop up, mate down :) Just because 24. Kg1 Qf2#|
|Sep-25-05|| ||TheSlid: That was truly disastrous for Nh5. He played just like my computer does, only against a competent opponent (ie unlike me) Nak does indeed get smashed. Ugly!|
|Oct-01-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: <Lately> I have been offering annotated games (in the CB format) ... as a compliment to my "Game of The Month." (http://www.geocities.com/TheGOTMman...) Generally, the file is all the games that I seriously looked at as 'candidate games' for that Month. (Not all are annotated, but some are fairly nicely done.)|
This game - along with at least one of Nak's wins - will be part of the download for September or October.
|Oct-02-05|| ||Helloween: Against 18.f4, Black can apply a lot of pressure with the forcing continuation 18...exf4!? 19.Qxh4 Qxh4 20.gxh4 f3 21.Nxe4 Nxe4 22. Bb3+
Kh8 23.dxe4 f2+ 24.Kd2 Bg2 25.Rd1 f1=Q 26.Rxf1 Rxf1. The onus is upon White to survive the exchange-down ending with his exposed King. |
|Oct-15-05|| ||AndrzejewskiJr: isn't 19 queen takes h4 winning?|
|Oct-17-05|| ||drmariogodrob: <AndrzejewskiJr> 19. Qh4xh4 does not appear to win, so far as I can tell. After 19. ... Qxf2+ 20. Kd1 exd3 I'm pretty sure there has to be a win. The only defense for the moment is 21. Re1 and then white has to worry about 21. ... Nf5, when for example, 22. Qxh3 Ne3+ 23. Rxe3 Qxe3 with still no adequate defense to both Qe2# and Qg1+ (the most interesting is 24. Qe4 Rf1+! 25. Nxf1 Qxe4 and still no relief, even for the Queen sac), or 22. Qe4 Bg4+ 23. Qxg4 Ne3+ all over again, but delayed a move. Lot of interesting tactics in there, though.|
|Apr-19-07|| ||BadTemper: anyone know how long it took for volokitin to decide on 2 ..nf6 |
why play Qh5 if you aren't going to capture the c pawn. pretty silly
maybe 1. e3 2. Qh5 lol
|Feb-03-08|| ||MUG: If 3.Qxc5 Nxe4 4.Qe3 d5 is pleasant for Black.
There is a nice review of this game in the book Chess Success: Planning After the Opening. No mention is made of the move 18.f4, however the author seems to be of the opinion that 19...Bg2 leads to a simpler win (e.g. 20.Rg1 exf3 21.Kf2 Bg5 22.Nc4 Bxc1 23.Raxc1 e4!)
|Feb-23-09|| ||FSR: Why didn't Black play 14...fxe4? Then if 15.Qxe4, Bf5 looks crushing. I don't see anything better for White than 15.Qxf8+ Kxf8 16.axb4, but that's hopelessly lost.|
|Jun-11-09|| ||ungeneral: Naka thing left to do but resign|
|May-26-11|| ||wordfunph: Nakamura - Volokitin pic taken from NIC site..
Naka looking at Volokitin's reaction after 1.e4 c5 2.Qh5 lol! :-)
|Oct-12-12|| ||FSR: <FSR: Why didn't Black play 14...fxe4? Then if 15.Qxe4, Bf5 looks crushing. I don't see anything better for White than 15.Qxf8+ Kxf8 16.axb4, but that's hopelessly lost.>|
To answer my own question, 15.Bb3+ is awkward to meet, forcing 15...Nd5.
|Aug-19-17|| ||tpstar: Look at those angry Black Pawns on the rampage after 8 ... b5!|
14 ... Nd6! was a nice sacrifice idea to open the f file, then 21. Nxf3? was simply not possible tactically or strategically.
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