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|Sep-21-05|| ||you vs yourself: Horrible game. Either the game score is off like in Hari-Mem's game or Naka just lost his mind. Not the kind of game you'd expect from the "next Bobby Fischer."|
|Sep-21-05|| ||alexmagnus: hehe Hikaru Nakamura inspired by Bernard Parham... Can this game be considred a refutation of the "Matrix chess theory"?Dunno... Some questions are still open, f.x. what would happen if Nakamura played 18.f4...|
|Sep-21-05|| ||ianD: Wreckless play by Nakamura. Bobby Fischer as the same age would have been more precise. Judging by this performance he has a long way to go to fit into RJF shoes.|
|Sep-21-05|| ||flor: Then do we all agree that this is an inferior opening for white ?|
|Sep-21-05|| ||cu8sfan: This game is just plain weird and seems to defy all chess logic. There's quite some discussion about it on the Hikaru Nakamura page.|
|Sep-21-05|| ||iron maiden: What's so illogical about White playing an unsound opening and then getting thrashed for it?|
|Sep-21-05|| ||cu8sfan: <iron maiden> That's not the illogical part about it. It's the way the unsound opening was exploited. I just found some of the moves hard to understand and counterintuitive. But maybe that's why these guys are GMs and I'm not. (-: Great play by Volokitin!|
|Sep-21-05|| ||IMlday: <Then do we all agree that this is an inferior opening for white ?>
In a word: ghastly.|
|Sep-21-05|| ||WannaBe: I think some member here mentioned (eons ago...) that Naka really wants Qh5 to be named after him. The comment was made in jest, but I don't understand why Naka keeps playing it!|
|Sep-21-05|| ||iron maiden: <cu8sfan> I see what you mean, but I'm pretty sure that's not the only way this opening can be exploited.|
|Sep-21-05|| ||RookFile: Is 6. Qg3 necessary? What happens
if 6. Bg5. If black plays 6....h6,
white calmly plays 7. Nc3. Therefore
6.... d5 might be expected, but I don't see 7. exd5 Nxd5 8. Bxe7 as
being that bad at all for white.
|Sep-22-05|| ||Gazman5: but having 2.Qh5 named as the Nakamura attack would be like having a defence like the Damiano defence named after you...surely its better to find some sound theoretical innovation than to become infamous for something utterly unsound, which you always lost when you played it...|
|Sep-22-05|| ||cu8sfan: <chessgames.com> How often is the opening explorer updated? This game is not to be found yet. I'm not insinuating you're doing a bad job, I'm just curious.|
|Sep-22-05|| ||chessgames.com: It's updated at least once a week, but usually more frequently when new games are entering the system. The very newest games, like this one, sometimes won't show up.|
|Sep-22-05|| ||alexmagnus: Can somebody tell me what if
|Sep-22-05|| ||euripides: 18 f4 might be met by 18...Qxf4 and I don't think White has improved his position e.g. 19 Bb3+ Kh8 20 Qxh4 Qf2+ 21 Kd1 exd3 22 Qh5 g6 or 22 Re1 Nf5.|
|Sep-22-05|| ||acirce: I'm not sure but it seems White may survive with best play after 18.f4, although without necessarily solving all his problems -- for example 18..exf3 19.Bxf3 Bg2 20.Bxg2! Qf2+ 21.Kd1 Qxg2 22.Re1 Nf5 23.Nc4|
or 18..exf4 19.Qxh4! Qxh4 20.gxh4 f3 21.Rf1 Rae8 22.dxe4 Nxe4 23.Rxf3 Ng3+ 24.Ne4 Nxe4 25.Rxh3 Nf2+ 26.Kd2 Nxh3 27.Bb3+ Kh8 28.bxc5 and it's a bit unclear but it certainly seems White shouldn't lose. Just a couple of sample lines produced with Fritz assistance.
18..Qxf4? is clever but 19.Nxe4! and White's winning instead.
On 6.Bg5, 6..Qb6 is annoying.
|Sep-22-05|| ||tamar: <acirce> 18 f4 exd3 and I think the computers initially underestimate the constriction around White's King.|
For example Shedder was enamored of 19 bxc5 for about 10 minutes before the dime dropped. That line: 18 f4 exd3 19 bxc5 exf4! and White has to give up material to make squares for the King.
Similarly, 18 f4 exd3 and if 19 Bb3+ Kh8 20 Qxh4 exf4 21 Qxf6 Rxf6 22 Kf2 (what else?) Re8 23 Bd1 c4 and Black won't lose, but the clincher may take many more moves.
18 f4 is quite an interesting resource for White though when his position looked hopeless. Are there other ways to play after 18 f4 exd3
|Sep-23-05|| ||acirce: <tamar> yes that's interesting, 18..exd3 may well be Black's best. An alternative line is 19.Qxh4 immediately: 19..Qe6 (19..exf4 20.Qxf6 Rxf6 21.bxc5 or 19..Qxh4 20.gxh4 seems to work for White here) 20.f5! Qxf5 21.g4 Qf4 22.Qg3 Qe3+ 23.Qxe3 dxe3 24.bxc5 Nxb5 25.Bb3+ Kh8 26.Nc4 d2+ 27.Bxd2 exd2+ 28.Nxd2/Kxd2 - but White has very good chances to survive.|
|Sep-23-05|| ||mang00neg: Obviously 2. Qh5 does not have a lot going for it, but imo naka didn't lose because of his opening selection. Rather, he was simply outplayed.|
|Sep-24-05|| ||tamar: <acirce> Your line appears best against
18...exd3. The f5 push and g4 follow-up force Black to attack just before he is ready, and may draw.|
|Sep-24-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Nak got crushed.
|Sep-25-05|| ||blingice: Why? He's up a bishop and he has moves.
Why not Kg1?
|Sep-25-05|| ||810609: <blingice> Bishop up, mate down :) Just because 24. Kg1 Qf2#|
|Sep-25-05|| ||TheSlid: That was truly disastrous for Nh5. He played just like my computer does, only against a competent opponent (ie unlike me) Nak does indeed get smashed. Ugly!|
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