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|Sep-28-05|| ||wheelchiar bandit: i love the way Peter Svidler plays hope he wins!|
|Sep-28-05|| ||tpstar: <bomb the bishop> Interesting idea. Look at 24. Rxa6!? Rxb7 25. Rxc6 Qd8 26. Rxg6+! (only Discovery around) Bxg6 27. Bxb7 Bxh2+! and White only gets 2 Pawns for the piece = 28. Kxh2 Qc7+ & 29 ... Qxb7, otherwise 28 ... Bf4. I don't like 26. d5 instead due to 26 ... Rb1 27. Qe2 Rxe1+ 28. Qxe1 Re8 and Black has the initiative. Do you see any better line for White?|
|Sep-28-05|| ||bomb the bishop: <tpstar> thanks for your analysis.. i always stop mine before finding the winning move, which in this case as you found it, is 27..Bxh2+! and favors black, the tie makes sense|
|Sep-28-05|| ||Trickster: Its Svidler serious????? in the first game and he its drawing, i presented that, a boring petroff or ruy lopez and a 20 moves draw|
No doubt Svidler has now entered to the Draw Masters crowd with honors.
<i hate the wat Peter Svidler plays hope he will end in last place!>
|Sep-29-05|| ||csmath: Maybe he is tired of travel? Weird and unneccessary draw. What is going on with this man?|
|Sep-29-05|| ||Trickster: <What is going on with this man>|
This has been Svidler lately, remember him in Dortmund where he made a lot of draws, so its not strange for me his draw
As a matter of fact i predict he will make another draw tomorrow,and it will be a 20 move draw.
|Sep-29-05|| ||Trickster: i say it again i hate the way Peter Svidler plays hope he loose!|
|Sep-29-05|| ||MUG: <crafty> Can we have your assessment of the final position please?|
I think White has the better prospects despite Blacks bishop pair. Pressure against Blacks weak pawns can be easily built up (e.g. Qa4 and Rea1 etc.), forcing Black onto the defensive.
|Sep-29-05|| ||AdrianP: Quite curious, Adams plays the Petroff (i.e. give me a draw, please...!), Svidler comes up with a very interesting new idea (15. Rb1; 18. Rb2!?) and manages to reach an interesting position (no mean achievement these days in the Petroff), but then is happy with a draw. Maybe Adams played something that he had overlooked in his analysis, and this unsettled him...?|
At least Seirawan agrees with me that Svidler's going to win this tournament (he made this prediction last night during his commentary on playchess.com).
|Sep-29-05|| ||AdrianP: ...or maybe Svidler is just returning the compliment after this game... when Adams opts for the 1/2 point in a rich position.|
Adams vs Svidler, 2005
|Sep-29-05|| ||lostemperor: I predicted this game to be a draw in 25 moves. Damn:(|
|Sep-29-05|| ||WMD: 24...Rb1 should equalise after 25.Qxb1 (or 25.Qe2 Rfb8) Bxb1 26.Rxb1 Ra8.|
|Sep-29-05|| ||Ferdyrojo: A somewhat uneventful draw in a Petroff opening. Black's a6 and c6 pawns are quite ugly. So, if Peter Svidler didn't make his best to go for a win, when will he in the present world championship tournament?|
|Sep-29-05|| ||Ulhumbrus: After 19...Nxc6 20 Rxe6 Bxe6 21 Bxc6! bxc6 22 Qxc1 Black's R, B and P may fail to give him enough for the Q, owing to his broken queen side.|
|Sep-29-05|| ||AgentRgent: <acirce: So what would you have played on 24..Rb1 ?> (from Zsuzsa Polgar )
Perhaps 25. Qe2 Rfb8 26. Ne4! Which is likely to lead to a tricky endgame for black (3 isolated pawns), but leaves white with virtually no chance to lose without a major blunder. |
When you're trying to win a tournament, you have white, against one of the lower players (sorry Mickey), chances to win, and very little chance to lose, it seems Cowardly not to play on?
|Sep-29-05|| ||acirce: 26..Qe6 27.Ra1 Bxe4 28.Bxe4 Rxa1 29.Rxa1 f5 and Black forces an endgame that, if not a dead draw, looks easier for Black to play than for White.|
|Sep-29-05|| ||AgentRgent: <acirce: 26..Qe6 27.Ra1 Bxe4> and now 28. Qxe4 Rxe1+ 29. Rxe1 Bd2 30. Qxe6 fxe6 and though likely drawn, white's still got some chances against the isolated pawns.|
|Sep-29-05|| ||acirce: White got chances where in that line? He'll be a pawn down, he might save the game but no more. (31.Rxe6?? Rb1+)|
|Sep-29-05|| ||AgentRgent: <acirce: White got chances where in that line? He'll be a pawn down, he might save the game but no more. (31.Rxe6?? Rb1+)> He's not a pawn down... 31. Rd1 Bxc3 32. Bxc6 4 pawns each, but Black has 2 isolated to white's 1.|
|Sep-29-05|| ||Centaurus IV: Svidler and his boring draws, he could have keep playing it, but he its lazy and love to draw.|
|Sep-29-05|| ||WMD: So the line under discussion is 24...Rb1 25.Qe2 Rfb8 26.Ne4 Qe6 27.Ra1 Bxe4 28.Qxe4 Rxe1+ 29.Rxe1 Bd2 30.Qxe6 fxe6 31.Rd1 Bxc3 32.Bxc6 Bxd4.|
|Sep-29-05|| ||tamar: No one likes short draws, but you can't get blood from a turnip.
Draw is logical from final position.|
|Sep-29-05|| ||Centaurus IV: <Draw is logical from final position>|
i woudnt be so sure about that, i guess white has some chances
|Sep-30-05|| ||tamar: <Centaurus IV> Black has a straightforward plan, double on the b file. If Svidler saw a good way to combat that, he would have played on.|
The most likely end would be 24...Rb1
25 Qe2 Rfb8 26 Ra1 Rb1-b2 27 Qxa6 Bxh2+
28 Kxh2 Qh4+ 29 Kg1 Qf2+ 30 Kh1 Qh4+ with perpetual check.
|Sep-30-05|| ||lostemperor: Ofcourse it is hard to predict number of moves in a game to say the least. But you can sense whether to expect long battle or not. With some experience you can estimate the amount of moves in a game and be frequenty in the right direction. See also my comments in Van Wely vs Svidler 2005 and the first time I started "estimating" Kasparov vs Leko 2005|
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