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|Oct-01-05|| ||Dionyseus: <offramp> Yes, that's very surprising. Offering a draw with the white pieces at move 12? Does Morozevich have any hopes at all of becoming a champion? I would have loved to have seen Topa's face when he got the offer.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||TIMER: As we have seen in this tournament, Topalov is vry dangerous with either colour, Morozevic probably foresaw this danger and so offered an early draw to avoid the risk of losing. It was a nice try, but good for Topalov, he declined and eventually beat him.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||Maroczy: Let's see if Morozevich can bounce back after this loss; I expected better from him. Of course he could run off 6 straight wins but that's like someone getting a high paying job with minimal experience and not being a lodge brother.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||azaris: Moro will look forward to scoring points from his favorite customer, Judit Polgar. He might also bamboozle a win from Svidler. If Leko really is in the gutters, he might also be a potential victim. But the only way for him to finish ahead of Anand is if somehow they insert van Wely into the tournament and Moro gets to play five or six games against the dutchman alone.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||euripides: Anyone who doubts Topalov's ability to play positional chess might want to glance at Van Wely vs Topalov, 2005|
|Oct-01-05|| ||euripides: I wonder whether Topalov might have won more quickly by playing e5 and bringing the knight to d4 before Morozevich got in 38 f4 !|
|Oct-01-05|| ||alexandrovm: <Toppy, who duly won his game as anticipated, mentioned, a touch incredulously, that his opponent had offered a draw on move 12 . ...> Moro, wake up! This is not a regular tournament. This is a tournament for the WCC. The most motivated and well prepared player will win! Snap out of it and play chess!
|Oct-01-05|| ||AlexanderMorphy: WELL DONE Mr.Topalov! He really is on fire at the moment, i wouldn't be suprised if he went on to win the whole tournament now! He's been very consistent this year and has really proved himself as one of the best(if not the best) in the world. Many will say that Moro gave this game away, but i say toalov just played too good. Haide Vesko napred!|
|Oct-01-05|| ||csmath: According to Short (and Topa), Moro offered a draw on the move 12.|
C'mon! No wonder he lost. He wasn't ready to play this for some reason. It is amazing that after 7 hours suspense yesterday Topa would not take a draw with black.
Topa does not take draws! He deserves to win every time. In this game he played positionally sound and solid game. Nothing wild, just pure quality moves. Moro, with his "planless" stuff had no chance at all.
|Oct-01-05|| ||fgh: <Moro played a series of weird (Moro-like) moves starting with 21. Ne2.>|
|Oct-01-05|| ||artemis: <csmath> Moro offered a draw on move 12! that is very interesting... I figured that morozevich would look to push through a fatigued Topalov. I actually had an inkling that both Topalov and Anand would win, since I figured that there opponents would try to force their tired opponents to play a long game. I was right and wrong. they both won, but moro offering a draw on move 12 is not what I expected. According to Kasparov, the sicilian moscow (1. e4 c5 2. nf3 d6 3. Bb5+) is a drawing attempt for white, so I guess he kind of offered the draw on move 3.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||OJC: < Moro offered a draw on move 12 >|
Maybe Morozevich was playing a bit of Lasker-esque psychology here. If he was almost sure Topalov would refuse the offer(as I was since Topalov has given no indication that he's playing to draw anything lately) then the draw offer might serve to: (a) distract Topalov from the game and (b) make Topalov ease up his concentration a bit since it would appear to Topalov that Morozevich was not in a fighting mood. Then, if Topalov made an inaccuracy, Morozevich could pounce and win.
Just some speculation.
|Oct-01-05|| ||alexandrovm: <Just some speculation.> Interesting analysis...sadly it didnīt work for Moro :)|
|Oct-01-05|| ||notyetagm: <csmath: According to Short (and Topa), Moro offered a draw on the move 12.
C'mon! No wonder he lost. He wasn't ready to play this for some reason. It is amazing that after 7 hours suspense yesterday Topa would not take a draw with black.Topa does not take draws! He deserves to win every time. In this game he played positionally sound and solid game. Nothing wild, just pure quality moves. Moro, with his "planless" stuff had no chance at all.>|
That's why the fans love Topa. The Moro game was like his game versus Vallejo Pons at Linares. Vallejo offered him a draw in a game that Topa had to win if he was going to catch Kasparov. After the draw offer, Topa looked at him like he had two heads and proceded to annihilate him from a fairly even position.
|Oct-04-05|| ||Kaspy2: it took Toppy more than 6 hours to grind down Moro|
|Oct-21-05|| ||Rene M. Pineda: hello|
|Oct-28-05|| ||patzer2: Morozovich should have played 26. d4! instead of 26. Qb1?! After 26. d4! the game quickly simplifies, but with more piece activity and even pawns, White should have excellent drawing chances.|
GM Shipov in his complete analysis at http://www.chesspro.ru/events/sanlu... simply states that <26.d4 trying to simplify the position, deserves the attention.>
After 26. Qb1?! White soon loses a pawn to Topolov's strong defensive setup, and then has a down hill battle from there.
|Oct-28-05|| ||patzer2: The tempting 33. Nd6? would have been an error, allowing 33...Nd5! with a clear and strong advantage for Black. For example 33. Nd6? Nd5! 34. Nxf7 Bxa5 allows Black to win two pieces for the Rook.|
|Nov-01-05|| ||patzer2: After the defensive possibility 26. d4! 26. d4 Qb6 27. Nc4 Qxb5 28. Qb1 cxd4 29. Nxd4 Qd7 30. Nb6 = White secures enough piece activity to mobilize his pieces and maintain even chances.|
|Nov-01-05|| ||patzer2: Topalov's 43...Qb7! deflection prepares a positional clearance move in 44...f5!, after which the Bishop will go to ...f3 and then to ...d4. This maneuver anchors Black's isolated pawn while leaving White's isolani a vulnerable target. This simple combination proves to be decisive.|
|Nov-01-05|| ||aw1988: <Dionyseus: <offramp> Yes, that's very surprising. Offering a draw with the white pieces at move 12? Does Morozevich have any hopes at all of becoming a champion? I would have loved to have seen Topa's face when he got the offer.>|
He must have been suprised, but I suspect it was a 'cheeky' draw offer. Topalov is not going to accept it, Morozevich doesn't want it either. Perhaps it was to throw the opponent off balance. There was no risk in offering a draw.
|Nov-01-05|| ||patzer2: The deflection 64...Qh2+! increases Black's advantage and ensures Topalov's win. Topalov finds a clear winning path with the pinning combination 67...Rd5! (followed by 68...Rd5+ and 69...f4 ).|
An option Topalov understandly passed up (for an easier win) was the deflection mate 66... Qg3+ 67. Ke2 Qd3+ 68. Kf2 Rf4+ 69. Kg1 Qe3+ 70. Kh1 Rh4+ 71. Kg2 Rg4+ 72. Kh2 Qf2+ 73. Kh1 Rh4#.
|May-01-06|| ||John Abraham: Fantastic game!|
|Sep-24-14|| ||JosepCmd: My pun suggestion for this game is: "Don't cry for me Argentina"|
|Sep-24-14|| ||ljfyffe: Che no more.|
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