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|Oct-01-05|| ||csmath: The last chance for Leko to play better defence was 20. ... f6. I think white is still better but this is in the limits of a draw (21. Re2! gives white a better game and black has to be very careful). 20. d6?! was probably the only inaccuracy Leko made and for Svidler this was enough here.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||watchchess79: To all those who are thinking -ve about Leko please do remember that there are 10 more rounds to go. Withing 3 rounds 2 losses doesn't mean the loss of championship.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||stinky2: You can bet Kramnik would love to see Svidler winning San Luis...|
|Oct-01-05|| ||Mateo: <csmath: The last chance for Leko to play better defence was 20. ... f6. I think white is still better but this is in the limits of a draw (21. Re2! gives white a better game and black has to be very careful). 20. d6?! was probably the only inaccuracy Leko made and for Svidler this was enough here.> I agree with you. The difference is that after 20... f6 you keep the d6 square for the Knight. For instance: 21. Re8 Re8 22. b4 Nb7 23. Ra2 Nd6 and the Knight has a good square. After 20... d6 Leko's Knight is out of play.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||ahmadov: To me, Leko has lost all his chances to win this tournament. Everything finished for him after the second loss. Now he has no morale to fight for the title.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||acirce: 20..d6 looked extremely dubious, especially in combination with 24..Rd8 - not allowing his own knight or queen from entering the game. Agree that 20..f6 looks like a much superior version of the same idea.|
Something is terribly wrong with Leko, nobody would have predicted him to start out with 0.5/3 having had two whites. We could say now that probably nobody is really close to Anand and Topalov at the current moment with Kasparov retired and both Leko and Kramnik in bad form.
|Oct-01-05|| ||Mateo: >Landman: I think <koster> was suggesting 24...Rf8 instead of 24...Rd8. I dunno, Black still looks to be in trouble. At least he can respond to 25.Nd4 with 25...a5 without losing material.> |
24... Rd8 25. Nd4 a5 25. Nc6 axb4 26. Ne7+ with a violent kingside attack. 26... Kh7 27.Bxg7! Kxg7 28. Nf5+ .
|Oct-01-05|| ||Ulhumbrus: 16...Qf6 obstructs the f7 pawn. The pawn structure including White's d5 pawn suggests ...f5, and perhaps 16...d6 is the right move.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||Ulhumbrus: 17 c3!! is a subtle way to take advantage of the black Q on f6 . The attack upon the b4 pawn gives Black an unwelcome choice : either Black allows a White QB on c3, attacking indirectly the black Q as well as the e5 pawn,or else he strenghtens White's centre by exchanging on c3 in a way which induced bxc3, strenghtening White's centre. Perhaps this is the star move of the game.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||Ulhumbrus: 19...Bxf2 has exchanged effectively the f2 pawn for the more valuable e5 pawn, so this trsnsaction favours White. The way in which Svidler's 17 c3!! takes advantage of 16...Qf6?! seems instructive.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||Ulhumbrus: 20..d6? may be a serious mistake and 20...c5! may be necessary if it is needed to prevent what now follows. White's pieces proceed now to take or gain ground by degrees, Black retreating all the way, until White's men practically occupy the lion's share of the territory on the board.An remarkable finish.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||euripides: The sad knight on b7 reminds me of Kasparov vs Shirov, 1994|
|Oct-01-05|| ||alexandrovm: yep, this is the other spanish won by white. Svidler played very well this game...|
|Oct-01-05|| ||Mateo: <Ulhumbrus: 20..d6? may be a serious mistake and 20...c5! may be necessary> |
20... c5? is bad on account of 21. Qe2 Rxe5 22. Qxe5 f6 23. Qe7 and white has an overwhelming pressure. It is difficult to defend the d-pawn and there are king side attack prospects.
|Oct-01-05|| ||csmath: <<20..d6? may be a serious mistake>>|
Yes, but even in the best case scenario white retains initiative. It seems f6 is needed but it does look ugly to a positional player.
I stil like Svidler's game here, it was played dynamically and it was flawless. His whole plan starting 14. Bd2 was just beautiful. I believe he has seen all the way to RxR and further. He spent some 25+ minutes for Bd2. I was analizing game and this is the right move with a long term advantage. Leko could have drawn here but only after playing very precise defence. He did not and he fell quickly.
Just a beautiful anti-Marshall, a game for the theory.
|Oct-01-05|| ||Ulhumbrus: <mateo> The purpose of 20...c5 is to prevent b4.An alternative way is 20...Nb3, which may be better. Taking 20...c5, on 21 Qe2 Rxe2 22Qxe5 Bd4 23 Nxd4 cxd4 24 Bxd4 Qf8 covers g7 and e7 while threatening ...Nb3. The immediate 20...Nb3 may be better.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||csmath: Leko's game is just bad so far. First he had two games hesitating against tactical players and almost got slugged twice even though he had better positions in both games. Then he gets into his favorite opening (Marshall of recently) and gets outplayed like this in some 30 moves.|
What else to say. He is almost burried already. Are the two Hungarians going to slug it out today. I kind of think Leko should better take a draw and a rest day tomorrow. I don't like his chess at all but he is better than this.
|Oct-01-05|| ||KINGWALK: I just hope the San Luis winner would not meet Kramnik without making him go through KO round with the best. He only drew against the guy who is currently the doormat of San Luis, not only he was alias Drawmnik but he is also Blundernik of late. Not deserve to be called Champ but Chump.|
|Oct-01-05|| ||DP12: Leko had a delayed reaction to Brissago|
|Oct-01-05|| ||Mateo: <The purpose of 20...c5 is to prevent b4.An alternative way is 20...Nb3, which may be better. Taking 20...c5, on 21 Qe2 Rxe2 22Qxe5 Bd4 23 Nxd4 cxd4 24 Bxd4 Qf8 covers g7 and e7 while threatening ...Nb3. The immediate 20...Nb3 may be better.>|
1) 22... Bxd4? loses a pawn after 23. Nd4 cd 24. Bd4. And how do you do to go with your queen from b6 to f8 in one move (24... Qf8 (sic))?
2) I do not like neither your 20... Nb3?! because of 21. a5! (21. Ra3?! Nd4) and after you moved your queen your knight cannot go to d4. For instance 21... Qb5 22. Ra3 Nc5 23. Qe2 white is much better.
|Oct-01-05|| ||Mateo: <Ulhumbrus: <mateo> The purpose of 20...c5 is to prevent b4.An alternative way is 20...Nb3, which may be better. Taking 20...c5, on 21 Qe2 Rxe2 22Qxe5 Bd4 23 Nxd4 cxd4 24 Bxd4 Qf8 covers g7 and e7 while threatening ...Nb3>|
I suppose you meant 24... Qf6. But after 25. Qf6 gf 26. Bf6 (or 26. Rf1) black has a completely lost ending.
|Oct-06-05|| ||DutchDunce: Historically, Svidler really has Leko's number, and this game just keeps that trend going. However, Svidler had very unimpressive records against everyone else, so I figured he'd be a real dark horse this tourney. How wrong I was.|
|Oct-21-05|| ||Hesam7: <acirce: 20..d6 looked extremely dubious,> I agree. IMO (I have looked at it with Fruit) 20... d6, 23... Bg3 and 24... Rd8 are Leko's mistakes. After 24... Rd8 he is defenitely lost. |
After 23. Ra2 Fruit thinks:
23... Nd8 24. Qf1 Bg3 25. Re2 Rf8 26. Nd4 Be5 27. Qa1 f6 28. Nf5 Bxc3 29. Qxc3 Nf7 30. Ne7 Kh7 31. d4 g6 32. Qd3 f5 33. Qg3 (eval: +0.71)
|Nov-10-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: <all>
I read the above comments. I found them enjoyable and entertaining.
This game will be briefly analyzed as part of the downloadable collection (the "games considered" file) for November, 2005. (See my "Game of The Month" column.)
|Nov-21-05|| ||patzer2: GM Shipov at http://www.chesspro.ru/events/sanlu... seems to validate the opinions above that 20...d6? was the decisive mistake, denying the d6 square for the Knight to regroup and take a share of the center after 22. b4! . |
Instead, 20...f6! is the correct defensive move here per GM Shipov.
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