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Erno Gereben vs H Ardiansyah
"The Bluff" (game of the day Oct-04-12)
Siegen ol (Men) qual-B 1970  ·  Indian Game: Tartakower Attack (A45)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Dec-05-11
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  FSR: It's not! Read the note at the end, or the prior comment by azaris, which reproduces it.
Dec-05-11
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  whiteshark: <FSR> Thanks. Finally I found a marginal different and more detailed version in German, that described the event quite well in one word: <bluff <!>> It also explained the situation from Gerebens's point of view.

"Kurios verlief auch die Partie des Schweizers Erno Gereben gegen den Indonesier Ardiansyah, in der Schwarz sich durch einen entschlossenen <Bluff> in ein Remis rettete. In einem Damenendspiel mit zwei Minusbauern opferte der Indonesier unvermutet seine Dame, was Gereben so schockierte, dass er nicht mehr klar denken konnte: <"Ich starrte wie hypnotisiert auf die Szene. Mein Gegner schlug mit meinem König seine Dame auf g6, rief dabei triumphierend 'Patt', reichte mir zur Besiegelung des Remis die Hand, in die ich vor den verdutzten Zuschauern wie gelähmt einschlug. Dann entfernte sich der Indonesier vom Brett"> (Deutsche Schachblätter, 11/1970, S. 253-254). Als Gereben merkte, dass Schwarz sich keinesfalls hatte Patt setzen lassen, sondern noch ziehen konnte, war es bereits zu spät – mit dem Handschlag hatte er das Remis akzeptiert."

Source: http://www.chessbase.de/nachrichten...

Dec-05-11
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  FSR: Google Translate translates the above from German thus:

<Curiously, the game was also against the Swiss Erno Gereben Ardiansyah Indonesians, in the black was saved by a determined <Bluff> in a draw. In a women's final with two minus farmers offered the Indonesians his lady, which shocked Gereben so that he could not think clearly unexpected. 'Staring' I hypnotized by the scene My opponent hit with my king his queen on g6, called it triumphantly 'stalemate', gave me his hand to seal the draw, in which I struck before the dumbfounded audience stunned. Then the Indonesians away from the board " (German Chess leaves, 11/1970, pp. 253-254). As Gereben noted that Black is no stalemate had set, but could still move, it was already too late - with the handshake he had accepted the draw.>

I get the general idea. I'm sure that "farmers" should be "pawns," for starters.

Dec-05-11
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  whiteshark: <women's final> for queen endgame is also 'nice'. :D
Dec-05-11
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  FSR: <whiteshark> Ah, I was wondering what on earth that meant. Thanks.
Oct-04-12  vinidivici: what is this... do u mean, Herman offered the handshake and Gereben accepted it so it was a draw?
Oct-04-12
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  Abdel Irada: <In a women's final with two minus farmers offered the Indonesians his lady, which shocked Gereben so that he could not think clearly unexpected. 'Staring' I hypnotized by the scene My opponent hit with my king his queen on g6, called it triumphantly 'stalemate', gave me his hand to seal the draw, in which I struck before the dumbfounded audience stunned.>

Are you sure <chrisowen> didn't write that "translation"? It sounds exactly like one of his solution posts.

Oct-04-12
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  Abdel Irada: <Annotations by <NN>.>

Now, there's a reliable authority: expert annotation from someone with a record of +24 -555.

I only wonder if he kept the paper bag over his face — a la New Orleans Aints fans past — while writing his annotations.

Oct-04-12
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  Abdel Irada: Ah, well. We'll have to give <NN> credit for one thing: As proved by his only annotation in this game, he recognizes non-stalemate when he sees it.
Oct-04-12  knightmare949: can someone please explain while white didn't take the pawn on move 17?
Oct-04-12
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  Abdel Irada: <knightmare949>:

(1) If 17. Bxd5, Bxh3, and Black regains the pawn.

(2) If 17. Nxd5, Bb5; 18. Nxf6†, gxf6; 19. Qd4, Bxe2; 20. Qxb4, Bxd1; 21. Qxa5, Qd8, and Black is up the exchange for a pawn. Here White has some compensation thanks to Black's weak queenside pawns, but the position is by no means clearly desirable.

Oct-04-12  vinidivici: what is this... do u mean, Herman offered the handshake and Gereben accepted it so it was a draw?
Oct-04-12  JG27Pyth: Pretty good. Although my favorite bluff came watching GM Roman Dzindzichasvili hustling blitz in Washington Square Park. I believe in this particular game Dzindzi gave absurdist "odds" -- 5 mins to his 30 secs, while also giving away both rooks and all his pawns! Well, by game's end it seemed GM Dzindzi had bitten off more than even he could chew -- His B player opponent sat in command of a small hoard of major and minor pieces all in hot pursuit Dzindzi's naked king who scampered about madly in the middle of the board. Both men were critically short of time and playing at clocksmacking bapbapbap machinegun move first-think-never speed. But suddenly in a flash of blitz chess insight the likes of which I've never had before or since and which I semi-honestly believe was telepathic communication between myself and the GMs powerful mind -- I saw <the move> it leaped out at me -- and in that very instant, Dzidzi played <the very move> I'd seen ... an ILLEGAL move! Dzindzi dragged his king two squares smacked his clock and his opponent replied reflexively, instantaneously, with what would have been checkmate had the king been on the correct square and smacked his clock. Dzidzi then stopped the clocks with the grin of a cat that had eaten a canary -- "Stalemate" -- his opponent blinked, stared at the pieces, re-stared, completely dumbfounded -- what just happened?
Oct-04-12
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  scormus: I cannot help wondering if there was a more conventional drawing line :\

<Abdel Irada: Are you sure <chrisowen> didn't write that "translation"? It sounds exactly like one of his solution posts.>

I was almost sure he did, perhaps on a off-day ;)

Oct-04-12  Riverbeast: This is an example of the phenomenon in chess (which I've experienced at least once in my own games, and I'm guessing most players have as well)...Known as the 'mutual hallucination'

Or perhaps, the 'contagious hallucination'

It's an interesting and bizarre occurrence that seems to happen more often in chess than one might expect

Telepathy? The Power of Suggestion? Only the Twilight Zone knows for sure

Oct-04-12
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  kevin86: chess blindness at its worst!
Oct-04-12
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  Shams: <I'm sure that "farmers" should be "pawns," for starters.>

I called pawns "farmers" on a page a few months ago, but I didn't know that was actually the German word for them.

Oct-04-12
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  Chessmensch: Der Bauer indeed is pawn (as well as farmer) in German.

Here are all the names in German (with the English for sequence):

German:

Schach: König Dame Turm Springer Läufer Bauer

English:

Chess: king queen rook knight bishop pawn

Oct-04-12
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  Shams: <Chessmensch> Thank you. Is it "das" for every piece except the Queen?

By the way, here are the names of the pieces in 73 languages: http://reocities.com/TimesSquare/me...

Oct-04-12  lemaire90: The bluff ? What a joke... In poker the bluff works because the opponent does not see your cards and you play a little psychological game... but here ? There are no secrets as both players can see the board... and this ended in a draw ? How ridiculous, really.
Oct-04-12
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  Shams: <Is it "das" for every piece except the Queen?>

Actually I meant the masculine "der", sorry.

Oct-04-12
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  Abdel Irada: <Shams>: Thank you for the link. Most intriguing.
Oct-04-12  rapidcitychess: So User: Jack Bauer is a pawn? Who knew?
Oct-04-12  TheTamale: That's a pretty funny story, <JG27Pyth>. It's like Jesse Ventura used to say: Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat.
Oct-04-12
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  zakkzheng: Are these guys beginners?
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