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Eric Prie vs Marc Santo-Roman
"En Prie" (game of the day Nov-24-2015)
French Championship (1997), Narbonne FRA, rd 10, Aug-25
Dutch Defense: Hopton Attack (A80)  ·  1-0

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Feb-23-07  Aspirador: <But let's ammend the record and say what is the longest a piece has been in prise where the en prise player won the game?> Or this: the longest a piece is en prise, the en prise player won the game, and the loser wore a red-striped necktie?
Feb-23-07  PivotalAnorak: The winner of this game is a former teammate of mine, his name is written "PriĆ©" and pronounced "Priay"... Sorry to spoil the pun :-) By the way, he's a French IM and a very nice guy.
Feb-23-07  hicetnunc: I think the sound would be closer to [pree]-[hey!] :-)
Feb-23-07  sfm: 31.-,e5 looks like a terrible move to me.

And oops, 37.-,Qb3?? That is the kind of move you make when nothing has been going on for some time. Only move is 37.-,Rd7 and black should be OK, as 38.Nf6 in response is a very bad idea.

Feb-23-07  kevin86: "en Prie" -en prise. Here the pun fits the name and the game. White's bishop is caught in a Noah's Ark trap for eleven moves. It's funny that the sacrifice explorer credits it as a sac the move white makes to free the bishop-only black captures it in his turn.
Feb-23-07  AAAAron: ahh, an example of the infamous "Noah's Ark Trap"
Dec-25-07  hedgeh0g: This game should be titled: Saving Private Bishop.
Sep-17-09  WhiteRook48: the dark-squared bishop is essentially non-existent for 11 moves
Nov-24-15
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  piltdown man: Another fabulous pun.
Nov-24-15
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  HeMateMe: I get the pun. That's because I'm a chess player.

Or "When in Paris do a Roman"?

Nov-24-15  morfishine: <piltdown> You are a funny guy. This isn't even a pun: Its just another another ineffective play-on-word
Nov-24-15
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  HeMateMe: <morfishine:> have you tried using softer toilet paper?
Nov-24-15
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  offramp: A top candidate for The Worst Pun Ever.

If you think it's funny you are showing your own ignorance; the phrase is <en prise>, not <en pris>.

Nov-24-15
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  Domdaniel: With 2.Bg5, Prie Hopton the Anti-Dutch bandwagon.
Nov-24-15  Ferro: Se me ha quedado una jugada grabada en la memoria, la 34... Ba4
Nov-24-15  cyclemath: In pronunciation, the French expression 'en prise' rhymes, near enough, with 'on peas'. It doesn't rhyme with 'on pea'. I do hear lots of people in the chess world making it rhyme with 'on pea', though. Even the great Frank Brady wrote a book (Chess: How to Improve your Technique) where he implied that the rhyme was 'on pea'.
Nov-24-15  kevin86: The bishop will go down hard!
Nov-24-15
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  Domdaniel: It's unusual to see a relatively open position where two Knights win against a Bishop pair.
Nov-24-15  Cheapo by the Dozen: Frankly, it looks like Black was better all the way, couldn't figure out how to make that superiority into a win, and eventually blundered ...

... or fell into a cheap trap. I tended to induce that kind of behavior a lot when I played; hence the nickname I've chosen for myself. :)

Nov-24-15  KID Slayer: Black should've won this game easily much earlier. Several slip-ups, starting with 31...e5?, made him lose his advantage and let White get lucky.

The pun is not really that funny or clever as well.

Nov-24-15
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  Sally Simpson: Hi D.D.

I think the Bishops and Knights cancel each other out. Before the error the game still appears to be in the pot.

I don't think either side could claim to be winning the battle of the minor pieces.

As usual in a non-mating middle game trick an undefended piece is the culprit.

Black blundered with 37...Qb3 the undefended Rook on d8 is going with a check.

Don't agree with this being called a Noah's Ark trap. The Ark has not won a piece. This line is also accepted theory, White encourages the floating of the Ark.

Nov-24-15
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  Domdaniel: <Sally> -- <I think the Bishops and Knights cancel each other out. Before the error the game still appears to be in the pot. >

Yeah, that was pretty much my impression too.

But I was reminded of a tournament game I watched, between two IMs, where the guy with the Bishop Pair won nicely. And also of a game I played myself, where I had a chance to retain the Bishops with a clear advantage, but exchanged one of them instead. My opponent was shocked. I went on to lose. I blame the influence of Nimzo at an impressionable age.

Nov-24-15
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  Sally Simpson: Hi D.D.

The myth of the two Bishops has won me more games than any other rule of thumb in chess.

Players let you have wonderful Knights refusing to chop them with their Bishops.

It's a good players R.O.T. at the under 2000 level it matters not. These games are decided by two moves tricks.

That reminds me of something else I saw recently on here...I'll have to find it.

Some fellow Kibitzer said after move 6 or 7 White is better because he has the two Bishops. A Botvinnik game.

We Kibitzers are like eunuchs in a whorehouse when commentating on GM games.

We can see it being done, and we know what to do....but we can't do it.

Nov-24-15  nalinw: Wikipedia says ....

The pun, also called paronomasia, is a form of word play that suggests two or more meanings, by exploiting multiple meanings of words, or of similar-sounding words, for an intended humorous or rhetorical effect.

Nov-27-15
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  piltdown man: <morfshine> I thought a pun WAS a play on words? Anyway, it made me smile!
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