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Gyula Sax vs Emil Hermansson
"Sax Sacs" (game of the day Feb-17-11)
21st European Club Cup (2005)  ·  Caro-Kann Defense: Advance. Tal Variation (B12)  ·  1-0
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Sep-02-06
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  chancho: A very fine game by Sax.
Sep-02-06  Albertan: Gyula Sax is a GM from Hungary with an elo of 2545.Emil Hermansson is an IM from Sweden with an elo of 2461.
Sep-02-06  Albertan: The move 7.Nge2 is rarely played in top level chess, instead the main continuation on move 7 for White is 7.Bg5.

The move 9...Qc7 appears to be a theoretical novelty for the position.Prior to this game, only the move 9...Qb6 had been played (in the game Karpov-Adams Tilburg Fontys 1996,draw 45 moves).

Sep-02-06  Albertan: The move 14...f6? seems to be a mistake. Another idea which could have been played on move 14 by Hermansson is 14...Bb4 with a possible continuation being 14...Bb4 15.O-O Qa5 16.Ra1 Nb6 17.Rfc1 Rb8 18.a3 Bxc3 19.bxc3 c5 .
Jul-11-07  Doktorn: Iīm happy, I got it.
Jul-11-07  somitra: yes, was easy considering it's a Wednesday puzzle. I got the key move 18. Nd5+. However, I did not calculate after I realized that after the line 18 ...exd5 19. Rfe1+ Ne5 20. Rxe5+ Qxe5 21. dxe5 Black has lost the Q and his position is still quite bad.

By the way, should I consider this as solved ?

Jul-11-07  mkrk17: I got Nd5 almost immediately. cxd5 loses the queen, exd5 leads to Rfe1+ and black is dead or down lot of material.

Pretty easy for a wednesday..

Jul-11-07  Doktorn: <somitra> Thatīs how far I got and I say it is enough. Black has no activity what so ever and is down in material.
Jul-11-07  not yet a patzer: I saw a great position that white could achieve from the puzzle position with Rfe1 followed by Nd5. A K and Q fork with c and e pawns pinned by rooks, beautiful.


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Of course, black gets a move before Nd5, so this would not happen, but ain't it purdy?

Jul-11-07  MostlyAverageJoe: Very satisfactory puzzle. 21 ... Rh6 is another interesting defensive line to consider.

After figuring out the above I enlisted ome help from Hiarcs in the analysis below.

22 ... Kd6 accelerated the demise a bit (Kc7 was somewhat better), but at this stage, black could very well resign already.

23 ... Kxe7 was another nail in the coffin. Kd7 was a bit better, but again, the game is nearly over.

14 ... f6?? seems to be what precipitated the ensuing massacre (Nb6 or Bb4 much better).

Jul-11-07  ReikiMaster: Do you like it medium, rare or well done? Bravo Guyla. After 25...Kd6 26.b4 closes the exit. Since white started this puzzle a piece down, material is actually fairly even at the end.
Jul-11-07  Madman99X: Nd5+ and black must lose material. I saw this one right away for once in my life.
Jul-11-07
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  dzechiel: White to move. Medium difficulty. Three of black's pieces are still on their home squares. There must be an easy way to take advantage of this.

Well, on my board the d5 square seems to be blinking. I don't know if I should play 18 d5 or 18 Nd5, but one of them seems in order. Let's try the more forcing of the two:

18 Nd5+ exd5 (if 18...cxd5 19 Rxc7 or 18...Kd8 19 Nxc7) 19 Rfe1+ (either rook seems to work) 19...Ne5 (if 19...Kd8 20 Re8#) 20 Rxe5+ Qxe5 (if 20...Kd7 21 Qe6+ Kd8 22 Qe8# or 20...Kd8 21 Qe8#) 21 dxe5 resigns.

Actually, I think black probably resigned after the knight check.

Jul-11-07
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  dzechiel: Wow. Black was a lot more stubborn than I expected. I'll have to take partial credit this evening.
Jul-11-07  EngageEight: 18 d5 also wins big.
Jul-11-07  vibes43: Fork 18 Nd5 caught my eye immediately. Thought that was too easy so considered 18. Rfe1, d5, and Qxg5+ but text move was the most forceful and immediate and knew it won the Q. Very nice puzzle but easier for me than Tuesday.
Jul-11-07  skemup: nice open of efile and then rooks with well situated queen rocks.
Jul-11-07  willyfly: White is down by a B - looking for forcing moves - White can give check with 18 Qxg5+ but it doesn't seem to lead to anything

18 Nb5 takes advantage of the pin to attack the Q

18 Nd5 forks K and Q but the N is lost to 18...exd5 which exposes the K to check from 19 Rfe1+ Kd8 (the only flight square) then 20 Qe8#

Black can buy time with 19...Ne5 but after 20 Rxe5 or 20 dxe5 it looks like Black has a lot of troubles.

Now let's see how the real game went.

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I guess I should have calculated a few more moves but hey - I'm satisfied

Jul-11-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <EngageEight: 18 d5 also wins big.> Show how, please.
Jul-11-07  openningspecialist: interesting puzzle i looked immediately at Nd5+ and tried to find mate if K moves but until 30 secs ago I didn't realise it was a fork. I saw all lines so full credit:)
Jul-11-07  openningspecialist: In the Qf7+ position if Be7 Qxe7+ Kc8 up Queen for rook if Kd6 Qf6+ and wins Rh8 and Bf8 soon after If Kc/d8 Re8#. MAJ discuss in correspondence game with me.
Jul-11-07
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  goldfarbdj: Quite honestly I found this one easier than yesterday's. Nd5+ jumped out at me, and then it was just a matter of verifying that the rook check was a winner.
Jul-11-07  aazqua: This Hermanson is a real clown. He deserved the beat down. Puzzle was obvious, maybe backing up a move would have made things a little more interesting.
Jul-11-07  Arkanin: <Not Yet A Patzer: I saw a great position that white could achieve from the puzzle position with Rfe1 followed by Nd5. A K and Q fork with c and e pawns pinned by rooks, beautiful.>

Sure, although I think the pawn is pinned just fine in the puzzle ;)

Jul-11-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <openningspecialist: In the Qf7+ position if Be7 Qxe7+ Kc8 up Queen for rook if Kd6 Qf6+ and wins Rh8 and Bf8 soon after If Kc/d8 Re8#. MAJ discuss in correspondence game with me.>

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