chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Jonathan Mestel vs Nils-Gustaf Renman
"Nothing for Nils" (game of the day Dec-11-2005)
Valletta Olympiad (1980), Valletta MLT, rd 13, Dec-04
French Defense: Winawer Variation (C15)  ·  1-0

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 13 times; par: 71 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 851 more games of J Mestel
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can step through the moves by clicking the < and > buttons, but it's much easier to simply use the left and right arrow keys on your keyboard.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Dec-11-05  Elrathia Kingi: 33..Qc6 is a wasted move. 33..Ba4 or 33..Bc6 34..Bd5 would be an improvement, perhaps.
Dec-11-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: <OhioChessFan> Ah, yes. Went back and replayed the game, somehow missed the whole sequence. =(
Dec-11-05  erimiro1: What a royal tour! Also impressing the manouvre with the rook over the 4th. rank (d4-a4-c4-h4).
Dec-11-05  EmperorAtahualpa: Great game! I like the finishing check moves but even more the piece exchanges around move 20-25.
Dec-11-05  Caligula: Fun game. Why did Black resign? He was about to grab a free Knight and check the White King.
Dec-11-05  Averageguy: <Caligula> The Ne4 is defended by the pawn on d3, so black can't take it.
Dec-11-05  Saruman: The game could have continued with:
49.-Kg8 50.Kg2 (50.Kg3 Rg1+ 51.Rg2 still winning but its tricky (51.Kh4?? g5+! 52.Kh5 Qe8+ game over))Qa8 51.e6 followed by e7 winning.
Dec-11-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: For once, a heroic sacrificial attack that doesn't succeed!

I thought white had a win with 33. Rxg6. If 33...hxg6 then 34. Qh6+ and mate next. But black probably would have played 33...Qc2+ 34. Ka2 Bxd3 (or Qxd3).

Dec-11-05  Saruman: <al wazir> Have a look at this one:

33.Rxg6 Qc2+ 34.Ka2 Bc4+! 35.dxc4 Qxg6 mmm tasty...

Dec-11-05  TopaLove: I think if 24 ... gxh5 then 25.♕g3+ ♔f8 26.♗xh7 and thereĀ“s no way to avoid 27. ♕g8#
Dec-11-05  Saruman: <TopaLove> black has Ke8.
Dec-11-05  sucaba: With 24. Ne4, White could keep the dark-squared ♗ and probably win, for example 24. _ f6 25. ♗c3 f5 26. ♘g5 h6 27. ♕e5 hxg5 28. ♕h8+ ♔f7 29. ♖xh5 gxh5 30. ♕xh5+ ♔f8 31. ♗b4 ♖d6 32. fxg5 e5 33. ♗c4 ♗e6 34. ♕h6+ ♔e8 35. ♖xd6 ♕xd6 36. ♗xe6 .
Dec-11-05  dakgootje: love the rook-moves by white =).
But if i was black and white played 33. ♖xg6 I would have answerd 33. ...♗xd3+ 34. ♕xd3 hxg6 though i think the line of <Saruman> is better
Dec-11-05  Saruman: <dakgootje> I am afraid that runs into mate after Qh3+ Kg7 Qh7+ Kf8 Qg8+ Ke7 Qg7+ Kd8 Qf8#.
Dec-11-05  thesonicvision: 16.Rc4 is something you don't see
every day. it's the kind of move that
lesser players such as myself, never
even consider.
masters always know when to break the
rules.
Dec-11-05  EmperorAtahualpa: <thesonicvision> What'so good about 16.Rc4?
Dec-11-05  kevin86: White's king goes a wandering-black can neither gain a perpetual or gain a mate . This time it's the chasers who can't save this one! Great finish!
Dec-12-05  StraightLarsen: mestel is my friend...
Dec-12-05  EmperorAtahualpa: by the way <thesonicvision>, I totally agree with your view on chess against computers!
May-29-06  MorphyMatt: "always check, it might be mate", eh?
Oct-07-06  ToTheDeath: That is some king.
Nov-28-08  Poisonpawns: Best game prize 1980 olympics.Amazing King Chase
Apr-29-14  rwbean: Can White win after 34...♕c5?
Mar-01-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: < was 41...Bc6+ a blunder check? It drops the bishop...>

It does appear it was never played and the extra moves after the sealed move 41.Kb7 is analysis.

'Memorable Games of British Chess' by Neil Hickman stops at move 41 Kb7 the sealed move.

Informator 30, game 224 stops at move 41.Kb7. BCM January 1981 (page 24) stops at 41.Kb7 adding it was the sealed move and the extra moves we have appears given as analysis.

Correction slip sent.

Mar-01-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: ...and duly corrected. I posted because this site is mentioned as having it wrong and anyone coming here can see, yes it was an error but we have corrected it.

If you are a visitor wanting to see the extra moves added in error to this game then pop along to chess.com https://www.chess.com/blog/simaginf... where they, at the time of posting, are still there in a nice piece of work about Mestel. (the author possibly got the extra move from us.)

search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2025, Chessgames Services LLC