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|Dec-19-05|| ||Akavall: <Kangaroo> Thanks You|
|Dec-19-05|| ||Akavall: <ughaibu> Maybe Kramnik didn't have anything better, Black is supposed to be in trouble in Sveshnikov now, he had bad results in Najdorf, Berlin doesn't work well anymore, what else?|
|Dec-19-05|| ||larrewl: Anyone who has followed Kramnik in the past few years know his performance has been less than stellar. On the other hand, Svidler definitely has been one of the top players so Kramnik's loss is not a big surprise.|
|Dec-19-05|| ||Hesam7: <Akavall: Black is supposed to be in trouble in Sveshnikov now, he had bad results in Najdorf, Berlin doesn't work well anymore, what else?>|
|Dec-19-05|| ||Akavall: <Hesam7><Modern Arkhangel>|
What is that? I am terrible with opening names. It is not the 1...g6 line is it?
|Dec-19-05|| ||Hesam7: <Akavall> No! Here is the Modern Arkhangel:|
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. 0-0 b5 6. Bb3 Bc5
|Dec-19-05|| ||Akavall: <Hesam7> I see, Thanks. That looks quite interesting, maybe he'll play it later.|
|Dec-19-05|| ||Hesam7: <Akavall> He has palyed it twice against Anand and Kasparov. The game with Kasparov was very critical it was game 11 (right after Kasparov's second loss) in 2000 WC match.|
|Dec-19-05|| ||notyetagm: <tamar: Svidler's plan 10 h4 11 h5 13 Nh2 18 Ng4 20 h6 looks like a laughable caveman attack, but it is hard to meet.>|
Simple does not have to be ineffective.
|Dec-20-05|| ||Dionyseus: Kramnik can't even draw with the Petroff anymore.|
|Dec-20-05|| ||suenteus po 147: <Dionyseus> It is starting to look grim since Kramnik lost four of the nine games in which he has used it this year (although one of those losses was a blindfold game).|
|Dec-20-05|| ||Ulhumbrus: 7...d5 gains some advantage in space, in return for which however White has more than enough advantage in development- providing White can make it count.|
|Dec-20-05|| ||tamar: 33...bxa4 was thought to be better during the game, but some analysis with Shredder isn't very hopeful.|
33... bxa4 34. Nc4 a3 35. Ne5 Re6 36. b3 g5 37. Rg1 Rxh6 38. Rxg5+ Ng6 39. Rxf5 Nxe5 40. fxe5 Rh1+ 41. Ka2 Rh2 42. c4 Rxc2+ 43 Kxa3
|Dec-20-05|| ||Bobsterman3000: Beautiful. Simply beautiful.
Kramnik is now irrelevant on the chess scene.
|Dec-20-05|| ||sucaba: <Hesam> After 15. _ ♘c4 16. ♗xc4 dxc4 17. ♘g4 h6, 18. ♖h3 ♖b8 (or ♔f8) 19. ♘xf6(+) ♕xf6 20. g4 . |
<Acirce> On the suggested 24. _ ♕c5, 25. ♕xc5 dxc5 26. ♖xe8+ ♖xe8 27. ♖d1 ♖e7 28. ♘e3 c6 29. f5 and moves like ♘g4 and ♖d6 next I believe that Black is in trouble.
|Dec-21-05|| ||AdrianP: Svidler, having been Kramnik's second, would have been privy to a lot of Kramnik's preparation. I believe Svidler had Motylev as a second for San Luis (Motylev is a noted Petroff specialist). Putting these two together suggests that perhaps a considerable amount of the work in this game took place away from the board. It may also be noteworthy that Svidler-Motylev (next game in this tournament) was a relatively short draw in this relatively rare 5. Nc3 line in the Petroff.|
|Dec-23-05|| ||sucaba: <sucaba: <Hesam> After 15. _ ♘c4 16. ♗xc4 dxc4 17. ♘g4 h6, 18. ♖h3 ♖b8 (or ♗f8) 19. ♘xf6(+) ♕xf6 20. g4 >. |
The move 18. ♖h3 is less strong then I first thought, since Black has 18. _ ♗c8!, for example 19. ♘xf6+ ♕xf6 20. ♖g3 ♕f5 =.
|Dec-23-05|| ||Ybrevo: An impressive game by Svidler. I especially love all those Night-moves in the middle-game and at the end. Reminds me of Bent Larsen when he was younger.|
I think this line of the Petroff is very typical of "modern chess". Who cares about sound pawn-structures? Letīs get things off balance right away!
|Dec-23-05|| ||BishopofBlunder: <AdrianP: Svidler, having been Kramnik's second, would have been privy to a lot of Kramnik's preparation. I believe Svidler had Motylev as a second for San Luis (Motylev is a noted Petroff specialist). Putting these two together suggests that perhaps a considerable amount of the work in this game took place away from the board. It may also be noteworthy that Svidler-Motylev (next game in this tournament) was a relatively short draw in this relatively rare 5. Nc3 line in the Petroff.>|
Another reason to question Kramnik's decision to play the Petroff.
|Dec-25-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: 17.gxf3 was unusual, if it does not succeed, then White's endgame is rather poor.|
|Dec-25-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: http://www.worldchessacademy.com/Sv... (My annotations of this game.) |
|Jan-26-06|| ||Knight13: Wow! Aggression by Svidler.... Beat Kramnik! Nice.|
|Feb-06-06|| ||waddayaplay: Kramnik is still a brilliant players, which you would see if you looked at some of his games, especially in the early days. The way he can plan into a strategically won endgame with material even or down is unparallelled in the chessworld today. That's his possibilities, if he wants to use it. But he appears to have gotten tired of chess, or just lazy, in recent years. That's not saying he has "gotten bad", or whatever you'd call it.|
|Jan-16-08|| ||Open Defence: nice annotations LMAJ especially on the alternative captures, IMHO those are the moves that most people like me wonder about e.g. what if he played Nxf3 instead of gxf3 etc|
|Apr-23-08|| ||micahtuhy: Looking back at this game, we see the major effects of Kramnik's illness, and just the great play by Svidler. Now Kramnik prepares to re-take his crown from Anand, and since this game Kramnik has once again make the Petrof a dangerous weapon to get at least a draw with black, will we see it again in the WC match, or perhaps could we see a re-incarnation of Kramnik's Berlin Wall? bum. . . .bum. . . .bum . . .|
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