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Sep-02-08
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| nfazli: this should'e been 38 white to play |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| Stara Zagora: Interesting that such an experienced grandmaster as Hebden missed this simple combination. 38...Qf3 is a must here. |
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Sep-02-08
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| YouRang: I suppose the 'subtlety' here that makes this remotely challenging is that the g2 rook is attacked by a pawn, so one might sense some urgency to move the rook. But the only interesting place to move the rook is to h2, which is only possible (and interesting) after we vacate the queen with Qxh7+. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| Trigonometrist: Much easier than yesterday!!
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Sep-02-08
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| Kasputin: It's sac the queen time.
39. Qxh7+ and then 40. Rh2+
For spite black can throw the bishop away on the h-file, but I suspect that black resigned immediately after the queen sac. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| Waitaka: <SpoiltVictorianChild: I agree with the hordes... Today's and yesterday's should have been switched around.> So I am also in the hordes, I guess... |
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Sep-02-08
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| YouRang: <nfazli: this should'e been 38 white to play> Hmmm, I think white has 2-3 viable moves there, with 38.Rbg1 being one of them. But considering the defense of 38...Qf3, perhaps 38.Qxf4 is better. |
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Sep-02-08
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| Kasputin: Easy yes but possibly this could be missed even by a fairly experienced player. Why? Because it is essentially a back-rank mate but on the side of the board and just because that is a little unusual, I can understand why it could get missed. Obviously I don't know if that is the reason why <Slurpeeman> for instance missed it, but it is a reasonable explanation. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| ed gantro: does anyone know the puzzle of yesterday? |
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Sep-02-08
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| Kasputin: <johnlspouge: <<chessdude2> wrote: Good ol' lawnmower mate [snip]>
This is a great name for the mate! It is much more evocative than, e.g., the related "walking mate".> I only heard this term recently - on one of Daniel King's chessbase DVDs. So maybe it is an English term. After all the English do have lots of lawns, gardens, and rural poets dreaming 'neath shady trees. Or have I been misinformed on that one :-) As a kid I loved this kind of mate. You would start to march rooks down the board against a lone king. Invariably, the other guy would move the king over just in time to attack one of your rooks. Then you'd just whisk that rook away and continue with the march. Oh, the good old days. |
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Sep-02-08
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| kevin86: Queen sac-quick forced mate-sure sounds like Monday to me. lol I know it's Tuesday. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| birobidjan: Very easy !! Qxh7+... |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| birobidjan: What holiday was it yesterday in the USA please ? |
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Sep-02-08
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| Kasputin: <birobidjan: What holiday was it yesterday in the USA please ?> Labor Day. But add a u (Labour Day) and you suddenly find yourself in
Canada!
Most other places of course, the holiday is May 1st - with a variety of other names. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| permutation: 39rxg8 rxg8
40Qxh7 Kxh7
41r-g7+ Kxg7
is not good for white. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| stacase: Since it's a puzzle, it took me more than a micro-second, but not much more. However, would I see it over the board? I would hope so! |
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Sep-02-08
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| Marmot PFL: Very easy. GM Hebden missed it, but was losing anyway so probably didn't care. |
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Sep-02-08
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| Once: 38. ... Qf3 is no defence. After 39. Qh6 Fritz rates the position as +14.05 for 39. ... Rg8 and +24.35 for 39. ... Rf7. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| TheTamale: I saw this in 2 seconds. That NEVER happens (especially in my own games). |
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Sep-02-08
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| DavidD: Clearly the losing player loses because he failed to examine and calculate ALL checks, captures and threats, no matter how impossible they may seem at first. Leaning to calculate ALL checks and captures alone (even one move deep for obvious blunders, e.g., "his queen takes my pawn, my pawn takes his queen, and I'm up a queen for a pawn) would easily add 100 Elo points to anyone's rating. It's a great habit to develop and to apply consistently. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| stacase: DavidD wrote, "Leaning to calculate ALL checks and captures alone (even one move deep for obvious blunders ... would easily add 100 Elo points to anyone's rating." Yeah, probably would bump me up to 1500 or so, but I'd bet the higher ratings do tend to such details. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| jovack: instantly saw this answer |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| Terry McCracken: Monday??? |
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| Dec-15-08 |
| hackmate: So why is this called the lawnmower mate? |
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| Dec-15-08 |
| withingrace: ow ow ow, a "minor" oversight by black. |
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