Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

(If you register a free account you won't see all these ads!)
Magnus Carlsen vs Erwin L'Ami
"Youth Gone Wild" (game of the day Jan-17-2006)
Corus Group B (2006), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 1, Jan-14
Spanish Game: Closed. Bogoljubow Variation (C91)  ·  1-0


explore this opening
find similar games 5 more Carlsen/L'Ami games
sac: 29.Bxf7 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: The Olga viewer allows you to get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" link on the lower right.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 1 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jan-14-06  aw1988: Certainly he has grand accomplishments to come. Bxf7! is classy.
Jan-14-06  diction: what if 30..g5, anyone has a computer line/evaluation?
Jan-14-06  Eatman: Someone said that computers thought that g5 left black with a better evaluation, but that's computers speaking.
Jan-14-06  aw1988: Well, I'd trust the computers on that one.
Jan-14-06  diction: well, probably objectively right, but I would still like white in a practical game
Jan-14-06  aw1988: Well, an analyses is not a practical game.
Jan-14-06  Icyclemort: <diction>

The sac (29. Bxf7?! Kxf7 30. Qf4?!) wasn't accurate.

The refutation is indeed 29. ... Kxf7 30. Qf4?! g5!
(31. Qxd6 Qxd6 32. Rxd6) or
(31. Qf5 Qc6 32. Rc1 Qb7)

which IMO are both drawish (31. Qf5 being better for white)

--> Even if sacking the Bishop, Carlsen could have played 30. Qd5+ afterwards (which looks dead drawish)

30. ... g5! seems to have been missed by both.

30. Bxf7 probably threw away an advantage for a draw in analysis, but over the board it had to be refuted first (and was not).

Of course after 30. ... Ke6? 31. Nxf6 white is winning.

Jan-14-06  clocked: <Icyclemort> try this... 29.Bxf7! Kxf7 30.Qf4 g5 31.Qf5 Qc6 32.Kh2!

32... Kg7 33.e5
32... Ke7 33.e5

Jan-14-06  MoonlitKnight: <clocked> Very nice analysis! It seems that the sac on f7 has some deep points that even the computers failed to see immediately.
Jan-14-06  diction: thanks clocked, so it appears that in actual fact it was an excellent and winning sac
Jan-14-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <> 37.Rd8+! should make a nice Tuesday puzzle some day.
Jan-14-06  Icyclemort: <clocked>


I have analyzed that sac a lot in the last few hours (with my brain and the brilliant Rybka).

I agree with you (now) that Carlsens sac is winning.

Though i still favor a different line:

29.Bxf7! Kxf7 30.Qf4 g5 31. Qf5 Qc6 32. Rc1! Qb7 33. ... Rxd6!

(though a small difference)

Premium Chessgames Member
  Robin01: I did not like black's 13...Bsf3. What if black would have played 13...Bh4? Can anyone say if this would have been better or worse?
Premium Chessgames Member
  Robin01: That should have been "black's 13...Bxf3"
Premium Chessgames Member
  Robin01: I mean, why give up the light squared bishop so easily!
Premium Chessgames Member
  Richard Taylor: This is a great game -Carlsen plays deceptively simply or it appears "simple" -he is a cross between a Capablanca and an Alekhine - my gut feeling is he will be World Champion one day (ok I did read Kasparov thing a lot of his play) - he might even win this tournament if he can have a crack at Topalov etc Maybe Black should have played Nd7 instead of hxg5...
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: <Richard> Are you going to activate your forum?
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: Wait a minute! I paid $22, and I was promised 'Girls gone Wild', not 'Magnus gone Wild'! I demand a refund! =)
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: What was the purpose of 27. Kg2 ? Was white just waiting for black to make a mistake?
Jan-17-06  slavyi: I think the purpose of 27.Kg2 was to support the h pawn. Other wise after 27.....hxg4 28Nxg4, white's h pawn would hang thus there would not be an outpost for the knight and black's king rook would penatrate opening the h file
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <slavyi: I think the purpose of 27.Kg2 was to support the h pawn.> Of course. After you point it out it's obvious.
Jan-17-06  pwrstick: I'm sorry - can someone please explain how the game would end if play continued?
Premium Chessgames Member
  jahhaj: <pwrstick> Maybe 37...Rxd8 (37...Kh7 38.Re7+ wins queen) 38.Qxd8+ Kf7 (38...Kg7 or Kh7 39.Re7+ wins queen) 39.Qe8+ Kf6 (39...Kg7 40.Re7+ wins queen) 40.Qe6+ wins rook.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Richard Taylor: <Benzol> Not yet - I dont think Ihave time - but I played over the Chandler - Wade game again and it's reat effort by Wade (and Murrray) - Bob mustbe about 80 he played like Topalov palyed someone like that!

I am quite impressed with what they have done in giving reports & some pictures and some games from Queenstown -I also downloaded the pgn of two days play -I suppose the top quarter of the field.

Premium Chessgames Member
  Richard Taylor: <pwrstick> If 37. ... Kh7 38. Rd7+ wins

If 37. ... Rxd8 38. Qxd8+ Kf7 39. Qe8+ Kf6 40. Re6+ Kg7 41. Rxg3+ Kh7 42. Qg8#

Or 40. ... Kf5 41. Qxg6+ Kf4 42. Rf6+ Ke5 43. Rf5+ ( or Qg5+) Kd4 44. Qd6+ Kc4 45. Rc5#

But <jahaj>'s method also looks winning. With the King in the open theh R and Q can just kick the Black King around and devastate the Black soldiers and eventually execute the King.

search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 1 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No posting personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
C91 1-0 37
from Game collection: 18K by fredthebear
Spanish Closed. Bogoljubow (C91) 1-0 Heavy piece coordination
from Spearheads C (Batteries involving the Q) by fredthebear
Chess Prince
by MrMelad
Deep Bishop Sac
from The Carlsen Chronicles by MoonlitKnight
This kid is going to be good someday!
from The Champ by yiotta
from ianD's sneaky bishop moves by ianD
AdrianP's Bookmarked Games (2006)
by AdrianP
Bolts from the blue.
by jaydes
Fuerte ataque
from Sac in f7-f2 by jricardoduran
Anti Marshall C91 New
by shibumi
Spanish Closed. Bogoljubow (C91) 1-0 Heavy piece coordination
from Attacks and Sacs of f7 Vol. II by Fredthebear by nakul1964
Spanish Closed. Bogoljubow (C91) 1-0 Heavy piece coordination
from Attacks and Sacs of f7 Vol. II by Fredthebear by kishchess
brilliant game of 2006!
from Favrozone by kevin86
January 17: Youth Gone Wild
from Game of the Day 2006 by Phony Benoni

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2018, Chessgames Services LLC