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|Nov-20-15|| ||wooden nickel: <saturn2: I went for 23 Ne8+ but -instead of 23 Ng8- it seems a mistake because of 23...Rf6 and now what?> oops... I meant 23.Ng8+! and not 23.Ne8+?.|
|Nov-20-15|| ||scholes: <Lambda> After 22.. Ne7 Actually there are actually five mating combinations|
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+M6 Nf6-h5+ Rf7-f6 Bg5xf6+ g7xf6 Rh8-h7+ Ke7-f8 Rh7-f7+ Kf8-g8 Nh5xf6+ Kg8-h8 Rf7-h7+
+M6 Nf6-g4+ Rf7-f6 Bg5xf6+ g7xf6 Rh8-h7+ Ke7-f8 Rh7-f7+ Kf8-g8 Ng4xf6+ Kg8-h8 Rf7-h7+
+M5 Nf6xd7+ Rf7-f6 Bg5xf6+ g7xf6 Rh8-h7+ Ke7-e8 Nd7xf6+ Ke8-f8 Rh7-f7+
+M3 Rh8-e8+ Rd8xe8 Rd1xd7+ Ke7-f8 Rd7xf7+
+M3 Nf6-g8+ Ke7-e8 Ng8-h6+ Rf7-f8 Bc4-f7+
|Nov-20-15|| ||awfulhangover: Not bad, considering it was a simul on board 23, lol!|
|Nov-20-15|| ||LoveThatJoker: I solved the puzzle by seeing and commmiting to the exact same Bf7# line that <gofer> posted earlier. A beautiful mating attack from The Legend.|
<gofer> Don't worry about the relation. Just take solace in the fact that you are infinitely better looking. :)
|Nov-20-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: Capa ends the game with no queen, three pieces en prise, and the win. Very nice.|
|Nov-20-15|| ||ESAnt: It coud be a GOTD!|
|Nov-20-15|| ||varishnakov: 21.Nxf6+ K-f8 (21...gxf6 22.Bxf6 mate cannot be prevented) 22.R-h8+ K-e7 23.N-g8++ then
23...K-f8 24.N-h6 mate
23...K-e8 24.N-h6+ then
24...Q-f8 25.Bxf7 mate
24...R-f8 25.B-f7 mate
|Nov-20-15|| ||kevin86: The trap has SPRUNG! White will mate by double check! WOW!|
|Nov-20-15|| ||dfcx: White is down a queen for bishop, but has all pieces aiming at the king.|
A. 21...gxf6 22.Bxf6 and mate next
B. 21...Kf8 22.Rh8+ Ke7 23.Ng8++ Ke8 24.Ng6+ Qf8/Rf8 25.Bf7#
What a brilliant mating net.
|Nov-20-15|| ||jith1207: This would be at insane level for me, if the puzzle had begun from queen sac. |
I got this puzzle until I faltered at last move, while rushing to checkmate by another move, which unfortunately had a defense. But this sequence was wonderful for me, thanks Capa!
|Nov-20-15|| ||Pinkerton: Difficult indeed|
|Nov-20-15|| ||BOSTER: 21.Nxf6+ Kf8 22.Rh8+ Ke7 23. I looked at Re8+ Rxe8 but didn't see Rxd7+(long distance moves sometimes invisible).|
So, I went with 23.Ng8+ double check, when no defensive moves, the king must move. This always give me more confidence.
Ke8(forced) 24.Nh6+ Rf8 25.Bxf7#.
<Eduardo Bermudez: How many moves can you (Capa) see in advance?>. One.
My opinion that he didn't count move after move.
He could see the final picture once.
About the game. Everybody has different feeling about a <beauty>.
Somebody likes 17.Qxg6!!
For me it was move 14.Rd6, blocking the black pos.
|Nov-20-15|| ||paulalbert: Got close but not giving myself credit: Saw after 21. Nf6ch and Knight is taken then 22. Bf6 leads to mate with R on h8; that part easy to see. So what if 21....Kf8. Then 22. Rh8ch Ke7 but I could not visualize clearly what was the exact followup. |
Did not visualize the brilliant 23 Re8ch ! so the R on d1 can deliver the final coup -de-grace on d7.
Although Capa has the greater reputation for being a positional and strategic genius with peerless endgame technique, in fact he was also a brilliant tactician and attacker.
|Nov-20-15|| ||benjaminpugh: My first thought was "White resigns." He has two hanging pieces and is down a queen for a bishop, with no obvious mate. There are only 3 checks available, and for each the checking piece can be immediately captured. Then I saw, oh, this is Capablanca and the parting of the Red Sea became apparent upon Nxf6+.|
I was still curious as to how Capablanca got into that position, so I backed up to the queen sac. Curious, what about 18...d5 instead of 18...Rf7?
|Nov-20-15|| ||Labgrunt: Great puzzle. Am I missing something regarding the <chrisowen> posts? It just seems like jibberish...like it is some kind of code intended to confuse the prison guards?? <chrisowen>...What? Or maybe I should say, "Why?" Do you have a random word generator that just spews these phrases out?? Help me out, guy, because I just can't figure out what you're trying to say. thanks|
|Nov-20-15|| ||Benzol: Capablanca must have forseen the end when he played 17.Qxg6. What wonderful chess vision he possessed.|
|Nov-20-15|| ||kyg16: It's inhuman to combine like this|
|Nov-20-15|| ||BxChess: Several kibbitzers have commented that the queen sacrifice is flawed because of 18...d5. Capablanca is said to have said that sacrifice was `premature'. While 18...d5 might stave off immediate mate, I don't see that it saves the game. |
<CowardlyKnight> gives the line
19 exd5 Na5 as winning for black.
But 20 d6 Nxc4
21 dxe7 wins the queen and forks the rooks
22 exf8Q+ Rxf8 and white is a whole rook up
An alternative try is
19 exd5 Rd6
20 Rh3+ Kg8
21 dxc6+ Re6
22 Rd7 and it seems to me that black will lose the queen and remains in trouble.
Is there a better black response to 19 exd5?
|Nov-20-15|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: Not the ideal starting move for a puzzle, since the first move is obvious.|
I saw that Nxd7+ is also winning for the second move, and stopped there.
|Nov-20-15|| ||Mfrankpsyd: And this was a game played in a simul!|
|Nov-20-15|| ||BOSTER: <BxChess: Is there a better black response>. |
After 17.Qxg6 hxg6 18.R6d3 Black'd play Qe6
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Maybe Capablanca would win with queen majority.
|Nov-20-15|| ||Peligroso Patzer: For the record, the score for this game appearing in Caparrós, Rogelio, <The Games of José Raúl Capablanca> (Revised 2nd Edition), Chess Digest ©1994, at page 219 (Game no. 440), includes the following additional moves, which presumably were in fact played on the board: |
23. … Rxe8 24. Rxd7+ Kf8 25. Rxf7<+> [<sic>; should be “#”].
|Nov-20-15|| ||chancho: I said the same thing 8 years ago.
Capablanca vs S Campos, 1927 (kibitz #16)
|Nov-20-15|| ||Jack Kerouac: And then there was Paul Morphy.
It's 9 minutes, but worth every
detail and proof of chess genius.
|Nov-20-15|| ||Jack Kerouac: Forgot to add sound delivers the
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