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|Jul-12-07|| ||willyfly: material is even - looking for moves that force
I found 40 ♘e7+ ♗xe7 41 ♗xf7+ ♔xf7 42 ♖xc6 after which Black loses a ♗ or a ♘ next move
White has gained a ♙ a minor piece and a ♖ for a ♘ and a ♗
let's see now if this is the solution
I guess that means I got it right
|Jul-12-07|| ||rayyan: why not Nf6+?|
|Jul-12-07|| ||Zzyw: <rayyan> 40.♘f6+? ♗xf6 41.♗xf7+ ♔xf7 42.♖xc6 ♗xd4+|
|Jul-12-07|| ||openingspecialist: <Dzechiel> after Bb7 Rc7 Nc5 Bxc5 is the final part to your line - really easy combo work litrally first thing I saw 30 seconds tops|
|Jul-12-07|| ||vibes43: Looked at only two ways White can check on move 40 but Ne7 forked K and R and could win any continuing exchange. Good puzzle - easy for Thursday but that's fine by me.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||Tactic101: Pretty simple. The line is quite forcing. You have to notice that the rook is hanging on c6, with no defenders. If the minor pieces could be cleared off the file, the rook is en prise. So, Ne7+!, Bxe7 and Bxf7+! with Rxc6. However, absolutely critical is noticing the vulnerability of the c8 bishop and the d7 knight.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||jkiipli: even I got the line, must be easy|
|Jul-12-07|| ||kaspiCZ: <Zzyw> I am no good, but were I white, I wouldn't try to force the ♗xf7+ after this. 40. ♘f6+ ♗xf6 41. ♗xf6 either ♙xf6 or ♘xf6 42. ♗xf7+ ♔xf7 43. ♖xc6 leading to ♖ vs ♗+♘ and a pawn or two for white.|
<someone with a chess brain> This is an interesting brain workout for me. I can't feed any fritz, so theese are only my limited chess skills. Has black got any better options in this (although inferior) line that I don't see?
|Jul-12-07|| ||arnaud1959: Not too many choices so it was easy. Most of us would find it on the board. I would say "easy" (1.5 stars)and not "medium".|
|Jul-12-07|| ||Marmot PFL: Fairly easy to get as the Bc8 has only one move (which loses) and white has no aggressive alternatives anyway. The last few moves by black look like serious time pressure.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||get Reti: Saw the whole thing. I knew the knight had to be moved out of the way for the discovery with the bishop with check at f7, then I saw the later Rc7 and knew Ne7+ was correct, driving the bishop away from c7.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||gawain: It was easy enough to see that 40 Ne7+ had to be the right move; there was really nothing else to try. |
It was also necessary (and slightly less easy) to see the winning follow-up 42. Rc7. Otherwise the clever clearance tactics of moves 40 and 41 would be insufficient.
|Jul-12-07|| ||uuft: Pretty easy. Too easy for a Thursday, one has to agree. Not much of a challenge... I fail to see the point of this - poor me, I guess :) Beautiful finish, nonetheless.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||tarek1: A good example of a positional edge surviving a lot of exchanges, including queens.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||zb2cr: The Rook on c6 is the key to the combination. It can be forked by Ne7+, and the White Bishop on c4 can discover an attack on it. The fact that it's loose makes the combination go--and the Black Bishop on c8 being guarded only by the Rook completes the picture. |
Like most, I saw this quickly. Under 20 seconds to work it all out.
The number of tactical elements in play here is impressive. 40. Ne7+ not only is a <line-clearance> for the White Bishop, it also <decoys> the Black Bishop to e7 so it does not guard c7. Then, after the <discovered check>, the capture of the Rook <removes the guard> of the Bishop. And then if the Bishop moves, it renders the Knight a loose piece, making the final <double attack> possible.
|Jul-12-07|| ||dabearsrock1010: I saw Ne7+ but dimissed it because I could not see Rc7 at the very end picking up another piece. I thought Nb6 might be so that was my answer but Im sure its bad. I award myself no credit, and may god have mercy on my soul.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||kevin86: I was looking at the fork at e7-mainly by chasing the bishop off the diagonal. In reality,Ne7+ is only a red herring clearence move to allow Bxf7+ and winning the rook-but still it's giving two pieces for a rook and pawn. Deeper,however,after the rook is captured,the bishop can only go to d7-and Rc7 forks two minor pieces and one must be lost.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||playground player: I read somewhere that trading a rook and a pawn for two minor pieces has been shown by computers to be not such a good deal, after all. But if you keep on playing the game in this puzzle, White's Rook winds up forking a Bishop and a Knight--so it's two minor pieces in return for rook, pawn, and a minor piece, and White comes out way ahead.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||bakuazer: saw it immediately, quite natural. poor c8 bishop, and stupid d7 knight.
i have above 95% result in getting 4/4 but below 15% of getting 7/7. (6/6 is still around 50%, I'd say)|
|Jul-12-07|| ||THE pawn: Got it all as a puzzle, but over the board?? yishhh...|
|Jul-12-07|| ||TrueBlue: saw it in a flash (1, maybe 2 seconds). Maybe because I am big fan of Chepa.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||Beancounter: Amazing, I seemed to be the only one in the entire universe who failed to find Nd5 yesterday, and yet today's solution was instantaneous. The only delay was me thinking, "is this too easy, what have I missed".|
|Jul-12-07|| ||fm avari viraf: Black's fate is sealed with a tactical shot 40.Ne7+ Bxe7 forced & White will win an exchange after 41.Bxf7+ Kxf7 42.Rxc6 & Black will have to part with his idle Bishop on c8.|
|Jul-12-07|| ||aazqua: This is a remarkably easy puzzle, almost as remarkably bad as that piece of crap on c8. What is black thinking with the bishop and the rook?|
|Jul-13-07|| ||patzer2: The decoy and clearance sacrifice 40. Ne6+! (yesterday's puzzle solution) clears the way for a decisive discovered attack with check and double attack to follow, as described in <fm avari viraf>'s post above.|
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