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| Nov-05-15 | | dfcx: Black would like to play Ra3+, but the pawn is defending the square. So taking out the defender first, then everything follows. 45...Qxb2 46.Rxb2 Ra3+ 47.Kxb4 Qxb2+ 48.Qb3 Rxb3+ 49.axb3 Now material is about even but black has a pin on the white knight plus a passed pawn.
49...Qf2 50.Qd5 Qxc5+ 51.Qxc5 Bxc5+ 52.Kxc5 g3 wins |
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| Nov-05-15 | | tea4twonty: 45..Qxb2! 46. Ka5 Qbxd2! 47. Qe5+ Kg8! 48. Qe6+ Rf7! |
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| Nov-05-15 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Oh, I see how I miscalculated. |
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| Nov-05-15 | | saturn2: White threatens Nd6 and after the exchange on f8 the two queens will cause trouble to black. Black has to act fast so: 45..Qxb2.
I got it up to move 48 and supposed black had the better endgame but did not further explore that. |
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| Nov-05-15 | | varishnakov: I got all the way to 49.axb3, but then I didn't see what to do next. |
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Nov-05-15
 | | Jimfromprovidence: it's interesting how optionless white is after 49...Qf2. If 50 Kc4, then 50...Qxc5+ 51 Kd3 Qd6+ wins.
click for larger viewIf 50 Qc8 (also 50 Qa5), then black just exchanges pieces with 50...Qxc5+ 51 Qxc5 Bxc5+ 52 Kxc5 g3. 
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| Nov-05-15 | | thegoodanarchist: I got the first move at least. That's gotta count for somethin', right? |
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| Nov-05-15 | | kevin86: at one time, there are four queens on the board. Black uses the OTHER pieces to win the game! |
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| Nov-05-15 | | mel gibson: I didn't even try to figure it out - it's too complicated. |
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Nov-05-15
 | | Domdaniel: Four Queens? I love these positions, remind me of G McCarthy vs M Kennefick, 1977 |
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| Nov-24-22 | | Brenin: Great puzzle! After some thought, I got it as far as 49 ... Qf2, when it is all over: Black exchanges the pieces on c5, and then promotes the g-pawn. |
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Nov-24-22
 | | PawnSac: wow Qxb2 looks juicy. ..Ra3+ etc al appears irresistible. fun attack |
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| Nov-24-22 | | jrredfield: It took a good minute, but I got the first couple of moves. I chose 46 ... Qxb2 instead of Ra3+, a serious blunder. With two queens per side, there's a lot of possible moves here. |
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| Nov-24-22 | | mel gibson: I gave up after 30 seconds as there were 4 Queens on the board and therefore a large number of possible lines. Stockfish 15 says:
45... Qxb2
(45. .. Qxb2 (♕g7xb2 ♕d8xf8+ ♖f3xf8 ♖d2xb2 ♕f2xb2 ♔a4-a5
♕b2-a3+ ♔a5-b6 ♕a3-f3 ♘c5-e4 ♕f3-f5 ♕d5-c6 ♕f5-b5+ ♕c6xb5 a6xb5 ♔b6xb5
♔h8-h7 ♘e4-g3 ♖f8-f3 ♘g3-e2 ♔h7-h6 ♔b5xb4 ♖f3-f2 ♘e2-g3 ♖f2xa2 ♘g3-e4
♖a2-e2 ♘e4-g3 ♖e2-f2 ♔b4-b5 ♖f2-f3 ♘g3-e2 ♔h6xh5 ♔b5-c4 ♖f3-e3 ♘e2-f4+
♔h5-g5 ♘f4-d5 ♖e3-e5 ♘d5-b4 ♖e5-e4+ ♔c4-b3 g4-g3 ♔b3-c3 ♖e4xb4 ♔c3xb4
♔g5-h6 ♔b4-c5 g3-g2 ♔c5-c6 g2-g1♕ ♔c6-b7 ♔h6-h5 ♔b7-c6 ♕g1-d4 ♔c6-b5
♕d4-d5+ ♔b5-b6 ♕d5-b3+ ♔b6-c5 ♕b3-a3+ ♔c5-d4 ♕a3-a4+ ♔d4-e5) +23.40/40
743)
score for Black +23.40 depth 40. |
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| Nov-24-22 | | agb2002: Black has a bishop for a knight.
White threatens Rxf2.
The pawn on b2 protects a3. This suggests 45... Qxb2: A) 46.Rxb2 Ra3+ 47.Kxb4 Qxb2+ 48.Qb3 (48.Kc4 Qc3#) 48... Rxb3+ 49.axb3 Qf2 50.Qg5 Qxc5+ 51.Qxc5 Bxc5+ 52.Kxc5 g3 wins. B) 46.Rxf2 Q(R)a3#.
C) 46.Qxf8+ Rxf8 47.Rxb2 Qxb2, followed by g3, is winning. |
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Nov-24-22
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Already knew this one, but still astounding to study. And it still hasn't become Game of the Day?! Abso-Lutikov insane. |
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| Nov-24-22 | | Mayankk: I saw Qxb2 and then the threat of Ra3+, but that's about it. I was distracted by the four Queens. Should have realised that after 45 ... Qxb2 46 Rxb2 Ra3+ 47 Kxb4 Qxb2+ 48 Qb3 Rxb3+, its back to a solitary Queen apiece puzzle, and then it's not so complicated. |
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| Nov-24-22 | | TheaN: A solve, though I didn't consider what could be called the main line: after <45....Qxb2!> Black simply leaves the four queens on the board, telling White, "I'm not afraid of this". Rightfully so, because Black threatens R/Qa3#, and the long diagonal is safe. Some examples: 46.Qd4+? Qbxd4 (how often can you note this) 47.Qxd4+ Qxd4 48.Rxd4 Bxc5 -+ and all of a sudden a simplified endgame ensues, but because of Ra3# (still) White has to give the rook. Also 46.Qxf8+ Rxf8 49.Qxb2 Qxb2 -+ and Black's a solid exchange up with all threats still alive. That kind of leaves <46.Rxb2>. This allows Ra3+ but it's no immediate mate. <46....Ra3+ 47.Kxb4 Qxb2+ 48.Qb3> and strangely, this was the move I missed. 48.Kc4 Qc3# so I kind of ended there. Once you see it the game line is kind of apparent <48....Rxb3+> this would be the obvious move <49.axb3 Qf2 -+> and White has no defense for the knight, as if White defends it Black can just simplify completely, ie 50.Qc8 Qxc5+ 51.Qxc5 Bxc5 52.Kxc5 g3 -+. |
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| Nov-24-22 | | saturn2: I got the ....Qxb2 Rxb2 followed by Ra3+ idea. Qxh2 was the first move I looked at but the Ra3 came later to my mind after. Before I realized Qxb2 Rxb2 Qxb2 leads to nothing for black. |
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| Nov-24-22 | | saturn2: Saemisch was my hope against kingsindian. But also with it I got demolished too often. No I play 1.d4 2.Nc3 or 1.d4 2.Nf3 3.b3 stuff and am Ok. |
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Nov-24-22
 | | chrisowen: Our c it hid mobs q it waft Qb2 abattoir blav it ie arrived it odd acrobat mob bud exchange cio Qb2 uba. |
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| Nov-24-22 | | Refused: I didn't get it.
Trains of thought process if anybody is interested looked like this. Four queens? Uff, ok let's try to get back to the fundamentals. The White King looks sorta awkward there on a4. Ra3-Qc3 are the sorta moves I want to make. Thus I briefly looked at 1...Ra3 which shouldn't work and doesn't work. Because White can trade off those pesky queens with Qd4(+) is things get too awkward. 1...Qxb2!! is simply a nice strike I didn't consider. If you spot it (and that the the other Queen of f2 is getting there) the line that follows is pretty straight forward. If you miss the x-ray (like I did) you won't solve it. |
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| Nov-24-22 | | Hercdon: Maybe pawn promotions to Queens should be outlawed. This chessboard had way too many queens. |
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| Nov-24-22 | | ChessIsLife159753: Really nice combination (45...Qxb2+!) to eliminate the defender of the a3-square. |
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Oct-29-24
 | | igiene: What a wonderful game |
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