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| CapablancaFan: <ganstaman><What was the point of 17...Rh5? It looks to me to be a horrible position for the rook to be in> Actually, if you take a closer look, you would find that Topalov almost had no choice but to try this. Remember when Svidler played 8.Qxd8+ Topa's king was forced to recapture with the result being he gives up the right to castle. Svidler then stacks his rooks on the d - file leaving the h - rook virtually with no way out. I believe because of those circumstances that Topa was trying to release his rook via the h - file and then by rank 5. Unfourtunately for Topa, Svidler did a remarkable job of blockading this rook to make sure that never happened. Topa was basically thrown on the defence almost from the start and never got a chance to get to his feet. |
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Feb-19-06
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| ganstaman: <CapablancaFan> Thanks. Now that I look at it that way, I see that after Rh5, Svidler keeps the rook from leaving the h-file (so his moves were probably at least in part for this purpose). However, I still think that Topa should have left the rook on h8 and attempt to connect his rooks on the back rank where they could have countered Svidler's rooks. This would have required Topa's king to make his way to the queenside and hide behind a few pawns, and I guess this might have been difficult. How would you respond to 17...Nc4, though? I think that this move would 1)attack white's bishop, 2)avoid getting his knight pinned against his king, and 3)allow black's king to make that march to the queenside over the next few moves. I think an eventual fxg7 by white or gxf6 by black allows black to move Bg7, bringing the rooks one step closer to each other. That would have been my plan, at least. But I'm no world champion, and I do have the power of hindsight (to see that the rook on h5 gets stuck and does very little for a while -- or at least so I think). |
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| Feb-19-06 |
| gulliver: Can someone please explain Topa's
31 st move ? Why 31.. Be6 ? |
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Feb-19-06
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| Resignation Trap: Everybody knows that Svidler and Kramnik train together. And since the Berlin Wall is Kramnik's pet line, wasn't it a bit surprising for Topalov to rush right into it? |
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| Feb-19-06 |
| Jim Bartle: No, the surprise was that Topalov forgot to sacrifice the exchange. |
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| Feb-19-06 |
| SanChess: <Jim Bartle> Yeah! He managed to get the pair of bishops, though, but to no avail because Svidler neutralized them very comprehensively. |
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| Feb-20-06 |
| SniperOnG7: Is it me but does anyone else get the feeling that Topalov's Berlin Wall backfired on him - look at his h-rook... stuck there unable to get out while on the other hand, Svidler's rooks were in optimum positions. |
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Feb-20-06
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| Honza Cervenka: After 42...Bd6 43.Ra1 Bc7 white can play also 44.h5. The main idea is to penetrate black position with white King after 44...gxh5 45.Kf5. Also taking the Pawn with Rook 44...Rxh5 doesn't look satisfactory for black because of 45.f7 Rh8 (45...Bd6 46.Rd1 with pin of Bishop loses immediately.) 46.Bh6! Bd6 47.Kg5 and His Royal Majesty is coming in with decisive effect. |
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Feb-20-06
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| Honza Cervenka: <Can someone please explain Topa's 31 st move ? Why 31.. Be6 ?> Topalov's problem in that position was not only bad Rook on h5, which was then completely out of play, but also white's threat of nice Bishop manoeuvre Bc7 with next Ba5 and Bb4 with trading of dark-squared Bishop and penetration of Rook on e7. 31...Be6 prevents 32.Bc7 and gives black Rook a hope for escape from its prison in case of taking on e6. |
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| Feb-21-06 |
| alex97: very nice play by svidler,I thought topalov was going to win that game.This was one of the only games I like of Svidlers.Otherwise Topalov is a much better player than Svidler is. |
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| Feb-26-06 |
| vizir: wow impressive play by svidler !!! |
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| Feb-28-06 |
| alexandrovm: this is a pretty ending... |
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| May-03-06 |
| United33: amazing !! f6 pawn didn't move since move 17. and it become Queen at move 57 !! excatly 40 moves later |
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| May-03-06 |
| kampchess: See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saaved...
and much more on the net |
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| May-03-06 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: OK, the Saavedra position, never heard of it, but after studying that Wikipedia article, things are starting to make sense! Thanks for that, <kampchess>! |
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| May-03-06 |
| Eggman: I see comments here to the effect of "great game, Svidler", but it takes two to produce a game of this beauty. Topalov's attempts to get himself stalemated were quite resourceful and made for quite a breathtaking finish. |
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May-03-06
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| kevin86: I never thought that a game would be played that fit into the Saavedra position-but this one is VERY close! Though it lacks the stalemate trap of the original,it does employ an excellent queen vs pawn endgame corollary to it. Enjoyed it to a T! |
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May-03-06
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| ajile: After 24.Ng5 Black is positionally busted. White controls the D file and Black's rooks are hopelessly disconnected. In the process of unwinding his pieces Black trades down into a lost ending. Great positional squeeze by Svidler. |
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| May-03-06 |
| Bare Beginner: I don't like Blk taking e4 on move4. It seems that's where his troubles have their root. In the opening explorer, the attack on Ws Bishop through Nd4 looks more hopeful for the opening. |
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May-03-06
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| patzer2: Svidler's 65. Qa5+! is an instructive Queen versus pawn ending. If 65. Qd1?, then 65...b1Q! 66. Qxb1 = (stalemate). Of course it's mate in four for White in the final position. |
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May-04-06
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| dakgootje: Took some time to understand the pun as i had seen the technique before only i didnt know what name it had, until i read the previous posted wikipedia article. Also the endgame is very instructive for how to win such and endgame as i think it would be very hard for most of us, and i think a lot of mistakes as still made in it. |
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| Dec-31-06 |
| Dr.Lecter: Topa had two doubled pawns... never saw anything like that before. |
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Apr-21-07
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| pawn to QB4: <Also the endgame is very instructive for how to win such and endgame as i think it would be very hard for most of us, and i think a lot of mistakes as still made in it.> I found this to be very true when I tried this on the new Guess-the-move feature. There I was wondering why Topalov hadn't resigned and I'd have allowed him two different stalemates. 136 is my score to wipe out, people, and I thought this the most instructive of the 5 games I've tried. Much better to learn not to let these superGMs wriggle out with draws in this format than when you've got the position in an Open. |
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May-02-07
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| Peligroso Patzer: Svidler's excellent play in this game with his Queen against several advanced passed pawns could be contrasted with White's play in:
Yates vs Marshall, 1929, in which Frederick Yates missed an opportunity for what would have been his only career win against Frank Marshall (based on games in the CG.com database) after Marshall found a nice drawing resource at move 60. |
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| Jul-03-09 |
| WhiteRook48: two sets of doubled pawns!! |
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