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Peter Svidler vs Veselin Topalov
"Saavedra Revisited" (game of the day Nov-30-2016)
Linares 2006 (2006), Morelia, Mexico, rd 1, Feb-18
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1-0
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May-03-06  kampchess: See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saaved...
and much more on the net
May-03-06  EmperorAtahualpa: OK, the Saavedra position, never heard of it, but after studying that Wikipedia article, things are starting to make sense!

Thanks for that, <kampchess>!

May-03-06
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  Eggman: I see comments here to the effect of "great game, Svidler", but it takes two to produce a game of this beauty. Topalov's attempts to get himself stalemated were quite resourceful and made for quite a breathtaking finish.
May-03-06
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  kevin86: I never thought that a game would be played that fit into the Saavedra position-but this one is VERY close! Though it lacks the stalemate trap of the original,it does employ an excellent queen vs pawn endgame corollary to it.

Enjoyed it to a T!

May-03-06  ajile: After 24.Ng5 Black is positionally busted. White controls the D file and Black's rooks are hopelessly disconnected. In the process of unwinding his pieces Black trades down into a lost ending. Great positional squeeze by Svidler.
May-03-06  Bare Beginner: I don't like Blk taking e4 on move4. It seems that's where his troubles have their root. In the opening explorer, the attack on Ws Bishop through Nd4 looks more hopeful for the opening.
May-03-06
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  patzer2: Svidler's 65. Qa5+! is an instructive Queen versus pawn ending. If 65. Qd1?, then 65...b1Q! 66. Qxb1 = (stalemate). Of course it's mate in four for White in the final position.
May-04-06  dakgootje: Took some time to understand the pun as i had seen the technique before only i didnt know what name it had, until i read the previous posted wikipedia article.

Also the endgame is very instructive for how to win such and endgame as i think it would be very hard for most of us, and i think a lot of mistakes as still made in it.

Dec-31-06  Dr.Lecter: Topa had two doubled pawns... never saw anything like that before.
Apr-21-07
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  pawn to QB4: <Also the endgame is very instructive for how to win such and endgame as i think it would be very hard for most of us, and i think a lot of mistakes as still made in it.> I found this to be very true when I tried this on the new Guess-the-move feature. There I was wondering why Topalov hadn't resigned and I'd have allowed him two different stalemates. 136 is my score to wipe out, people, and I thought this the most instructive of the 5 games I've tried. Much better to learn not to let these superGMs wriggle out with draws in this format than when you've got the position in an Open.
May-02-07
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  Peligroso Patzer: Svidler's excellent play in this game with his Queen against several advanced passed pawns could be contrasted with White's play in: Yates vs Marshall, 1929, in which Frederick Yates missed an opportunity for what would have been his only career win against Frank Marshall (based on games in the CG.com database) after Marshall found a nice drawing resource at move 60.
Jul-03-09  WhiteRook48: two sets of doubled pawns!!
Feb-09-13
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  Eduardo Bermudez: Amazing ending !!
Nov-30-16  Doniez: What's the meaning of the pun? Thanks
Nov-30-16
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  offramp: <Doniez>,
51. Kxg6


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The position is similar to a famous historical position:


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Where White is to play and win.

There is more info here:
https://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess/...

Nov-30-16  AlicesKnight: An intriguing combination of two classic endgame issues (RvP and Q v advanced Ps).
Nov-30-16  Doniez: <offramp> thank you so much for the explanation and for the link. Very instructive.
Nov-30-16
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  Richard Taylor: Yes, I was looking for the "draw" by Topalov.

Originally the puzzle above was posted by Saavedra as "White to play and draw." But someone found an ingenious win. It is worth trying to work out without moving the pieces.

Nov-30-16  clement41: What an endgame! Study-like!
It does indeed remind of the Saavedra position, but an improved version in the sense that black cannot use the stalemate trick. Svidler's play appears super precise to me, I'd need to computer-check it though.
Nov-30-16
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  offramp: <Richard Taylor: Yes, I was looking for the "draw" by Topalov. Originally the puzzle above was posted by Saavedra as "White to play and draw." But someone found an ingenious win. It is worth trying to work out without moving the pieces.>

Correct except it was Saavedra that found the win.

Nov-30-16  Ironmanth: Fantastic game! The endgame here is one reason that chess has inspired me for over 45 years! Y'all savor this.
Nov-30-16  7he5haman: Really enjoyed playing over this game!
Nov-30-16
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  kevin86: A very good game after the Saavadra model. Whitw was long a rook down , but won the game-even for a ime a queen ahead for two pawns!
Nov-30-16  gauer: R Fenton vs W Potter, 1875 appears to have more history of how the original form of the theme came to be.
Dec-01-16  JohnBoy: This is a magnificent game. The whole plan of locking up the black rook on h5 is lovely. Topalov throws puzzle after puzzle at Svid to recover, but to no avail. Beautiful finish,
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