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Alexander Vladilenovich Goldin vs Emory Tate
US Championship 2006 (2006), San Diego, CA USA, rd 2, Mar-03
Benko Gambit: General (A57)  ·  1-0


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  WannaBe: I am not a d4 player, I answer d4 with King's Indian, I know nothing of Benko Gambit.

But I do know something went horribly wrong for black here.

Mr. Tate, I'm coming down tomorrow to San Diego to hang out and get some of the tournament atmosphere. Please don't disappoint me. :-)

Mar-04-06  Caissanist: Did Tate do too much celebrating of his first round victory over GM Akobian? Whatever the reason, any idiot can see what's coming after 12..Nd6??, which violates just about every opening principle that I can think of. Not a good game by Tate.
Mar-04-06  MaxxLange: It's more like a Blumenfeld I guess, since Black does not play ...g6 and ...Bg7.
Mar-04-06  MaxxLange: 12..Nd6 looks pretty bad, yeah, whatever opening it is. Goldin converted with a lot of energy...ouch.
Mar-04-06  Resignation Trap: Goldin tried the sharpest line: 7.e4!

Many have fallen for the "obvious" 7.Bg5 Bxd5 8.Bxf6 Qxf6 9.Qxd5 Qxb2 10.Rd1. But then the unobvious 10...c4! is good for Black.

Mar-04-06  midknightblue: Tate had a chance to take this towards a normal benko with 4...a6. Black can later play ...e6 in some benko lines. However, I am not familiar with the opening after he played 4...e6 instead of ...a6. Has he transposed it into something else (is that the Blumenfeld?). Agree that 12..Nd6 is bad. Oh well, he beat a GM in round 1. Hopefully he can settle down for the upcoming rounds.
Mar-05-06  Caissanist: <Many have fallen for the "obvious" 7.Bg5 Bxd5 8.Bxf6 Qxf6 9.Qxd5 Qxb2 10.Rd1. > <Resignation Trap>--do you know of any games on this site that follow that line? When I used opening explorer I couldn't find a thing, perhaps there was a transposition or something that it missed? In the games that the explorer did return the usual next move was 7.Nxf6; this gives white nothing, or maybe less than nothing.
Mar-05-06  Resignation Trap: <Caissanist> You can find a few examples of that line with 7.Bg5 on , the earliest one being Starck-Zinn from the 1958 East German Championship.
Mar-05-06  4daluvofchess: What about 1...c5? I used to try this a lot, but a strong player( ~ 2400) told me I should always play 1...Nf6 first.

Anyway, this is Tate. As Josh Waitzkin says about him in one of his lectures, he can blow away a top GM one game and lose to an expert the next. I like him though- a true fighter.

Mar-05-06  Resignation Trap: <4daluvofchess> Actually, 1.d4 c5 2.d5 Nf6 has little significance from 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5, except in the former, White has the option of playing his knight to c3 in front of the c-pawn. However, according to our database, the lines without c4 by White fare slightly worse than those with c4.
Mar-07-06  Caissanist: <Resignation Trap> Thanks much as always, I didn't know about that site.
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