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Joost Berkvens vs Victor Mikhalevski
Essent Open (2000), Hoogeveen NED, rd 5, Oct-17
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense (C65)  ·  0-1
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Jul-21-10  Primoman: Got me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddA...

Jul-21-10  jussu: Lol. I fell in :)
Jul-21-10  cjgone: I fell for it. :D
Jul-21-10  lopium: Ahahah I also felt in the trap!
Jul-21-10  eric the Baptist: This yet another stupid puzzle. We're supposed to pick a clunker of a move that winds up losing? CG needs to be consistent about these things. A player can make tons of different losing moves, so what's the point? This kind of thing only serves to cast doubt on subsequent puzzles. Am I supposed to find a winner of a loser?? Puzzles should always be the finding of one move that wins.
Jul-21-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  agb2002: <CHESSTTCAMPS: <agb2002: I need a coffee...> Well, two cups wasn't enough for me! I missed the quick refutation of 13.Nxf7. A great spoiler to catch a number of us off guard!>

Curiously, I noticed possible back rank problems (e.g. line A.1) but didn't pay enough attention.

Jul-21-10  WhiteRook48: i fell for 13 Nxf7
Jul-21-10  Mace: Gah, Wednesday!?? I definitely took the bait.

So is there an attack for white? The best move I saw was f4, and that one is still iffy, opening up for a queen check.

Jul-21-10  jheiner: Just joining the ranks of the defeated. Nice trap today.
Jul-21-10  Patriot: <eric the Baptist>

It all depends on what you expect. If it's just to solve a puzzle then I understand your frustration. But if you use these puzzles as a means of finding errors in your own thought process to help improve OTB analysis (like myself), then you would actually want to see more spoilers like this to make sure you are on the right track. Because OTB, there is no guarantee that there is a win so you're left to think it thru properly to make sure it is not a blunder.

Jul-21-10  wals: Nailed the first move of this little
teaser and the second and the third but completely missed the fourth.

13.Nxf7 was a blunder, -2.36.
Alternatives were:- (none really flash)

Analysis by Rybka 3 1-cpu:

1. (-1.21): 13.Ng4 Bc6 14.Nxf6+ Qxf6 15.Qc2 Qd4 16.a4 Rad8 17.h3

2. (-1.28): 13.a4 Rxe5 14.axb5 Nxe4 15.Nxe4 Qxd1 16.Rxd1 Rxe4 17.h3 h5 18.g3 Rb4 19.Rd5 Bxb2 20.Bxb2 Rxb2 21.Rc5 a5 22.bxa6 Rxa6 23.Rxa6 bxa6 24.Kg2 Rb7

3. (-1.36): 13.f4 Qd4+ 14.Kh1[] Rad8 15.Qf3 Nh5 16.Nb3 Qb4 17.Be3 b6 18.Rac1 f6 19.Ng4 Qxe4 20.Qxe4 Rxe4 21.Nf2 Ra4 22.Rxc7 Bf8 23.f5

4. (-1.48): 13.Nef3 Nxe4 14.Nxe4[] Qxd1[] 15.Rxd1 Rxe4 16.Rb1 Rae8 17.Be3 b6 18.b3 c5 19.Rd6 R4e6 20.Rbd1 h6

5. (-1.94): 13.Ndf3 Qxd1 14.Rxd1[] Nxe4 15.a4 Ba6 16.Ng4 Rad8 17.Bf4 Bxb2 18.Bxc7 Bxa1 19.Rxd8 Rxd8 20.Bxd8 Be2 21.Bc7 f5

Jul-21-10  chessgolfer: Certainly one to keep you honest. I saw Nxf7 right off and also saw that it would lead me down the rabbit hole so I discarded it. Does that mean I solved the puzzle?? :=>

The conclusion I came to was that I would not want to be White in this game.

Jul-21-10  amaurobius: <CHESSTTCAMPS> <Nullifidian> Thanks for picking up on my question and for your replies to it.
Jul-21-10  ajile: lol

This puzzle was hilarious.

14..Qd5!!

Jul-21-10  penarol: I fell into the trap too. Good puzzle!
Anyway I partiallly agree with OBIT:
if you avoid the trick, it is not easy to find a particularly good move. But I understand that was not the intention.
Jul-21-10  BOSTER: Everything in chess involves risk, but I would not play 13.Nxf7-the chess player must feel a danger in the position. And maybe another reason. I remember very good how R.Reti, playing against A.Alekhine, had left his knight on b7 without protection, game where A.Alekhine played his most celebrated combination. Today puzzle is another good proof- that "greed is the most powerful motivator in the world".
Jul-21-10  lzromeu: I get this, but just lucky. Several weeks I fooled early. In mondays

<OBIT: I don't subscribe to the idea that, in a bad position, the best move is the one that delays the loss the longest.>

Kasparov says when you are in bad position, you need to create complex moves, not exactly to delay, but to increase possibilities. Maybe you can win, in one of then.

Jul-21-10  reti: This is a beautiful finish! Simple and yet strong.
Jul-21-10
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  AylerKupp: Give White some credit. It's not easy to lose in just 14 moves with the white pieces in a Ruy Lopez.
Jul-21-10  Funicular: nxf7...suddenly i see the 0-1

this calls for a FAIL demotivational poster

Jul-21-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheBish: J Berkvens vs V Mikhalevski, 2000

White to play (13.?) "Medium/Easy"

White wins a pawn with 13. Nxf7! Kxf7 14. Qb3+. That's all I have time for, let's check...

Jul-21-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheBish: Wow, that's the best spoiler I've seen yet! I wonder if I would have seen that with a little more time (maybe a lot of time).
Jul-24-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  cormier: 9.d5,
Jan-03-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Ouch - what a diabolical trick!
Jan-03-12  King Death: < lzromeu: ...Kasparov says when you are in bad position, you need to create complex moves, not exactly to delay, but to increase possibilities. Maybe you can win, in one of then.>

This is exactly what the strongest players all do and it's part of what makes them strong. Not every game's a text book crush even though the old style annotators would have had you think so to read their comments.

Today among the top players Nakamura is especially strong at making things complicated when he's in a bad position. Lasker and Tal were too.

<FSR> I agree, Black pulled a mean trick out of his hat to close out this game.

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