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City of London vs City of Athens
"Greek Gift" (game of the day Aug-04-2011)
City corr (1897)
King Pawn Game: Alapin Opening (C20)  ·  0-1
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Apr-07-06  Autoreparaturwerkbau: Now that's some cool way Athens defeated Great London! By Legall-like finish.
Jun-17-06  MUG: How many people did it take to come up with the terrible 9...Bxd8??
Dec-15-06  Kruglov: Old Legall's move 10...Nd4# also works fine.
Feb-02-07  hellstrafer: Sure you'd think among all those people playing for London one would say "hey this is the Legall's trap"
Feb-02-07  Wolfgang01: This wasn't the City of London. These were the Patzers of London.
Feb-02-08
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  OBIT: Correspondence, eh? It's hard to believe nobody playing for London noticed that 8. Nd5 is refuted by 8...Nxe4, winning at least a pawn. Instead, 8. Bxf6 gxf6 9. Qf3 threatens mate in two with Qg3+, winning a pawn for White. Maybe this game was played during one of their plagues.
Dec-22-09
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  Domdaniel: 'City of London'. Bankers. Enough said.
Dec-22-09
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  whiteshark: 'City of Athens'. Greeks. Enough said.
Aug-04-11  TheTamale: When I saw "Alapin's Opening" and that the game only went eight moves, I nodded my head and thought, "As surely as night follows day." But it turned out to be a Legal's Mate. The spirit of Legal is strong in Athens... probably channeled through the Oracle.
Aug-04-11  SketchQuark: 8. Bxf6 gxf looks dangerous enough for me to go that route in almost any time control. I'm surprised white didn't do the same.

Checking with an engine, that followed by Nd5 gives white about a 1.5 pawn advantage.

Aug-04-11
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  AylerKupp: Take it easy on those London folks. Chess engines were not as strong in those days as they are now, and neither were computers.
Aug-04-11  ounos: This is back at the times where Greece, as a political entity, was just Peloponnesus, Central Greece, Thessaly, and some islands -- not even Crete.
Aug-04-11  zealouspawn: How many Englishmen does it take to spot a mate in two? More than they had, apparently.
Aug-04-11  LIFE Master AJ: Hmm. Bad play by White, but nice finish.
Aug-04-11  Sho: Academically what is the referent of pun, i.e. what is the "gift" received by the Greeks?
Aug-04-11
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  whiteshark: <Sho> http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/...
Aug-04-11
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  whiteshark: <Sho> Greek gift sacrifice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...
Aug-04-11
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  whiteshark: <Sho> http://www.bishop-sacrifice.com/
Aug-04-11  Sho: Wow...prompt service--thanks whiteshark.

Irony: between posts my wife and son (5) just came home from the aqauriam with stories, stickers, and coloring books of great white sharks. Funny.

Aug-04-11  DrMAL: Lots of beer sold in that London pub...
Aug-04-11  cunctatorg: Back in 1897 (during the first Olympiad of modern times?) the "Greek" (City of Athens)Chess Team had had to be consisted by foreign visitors, Englishmen perhaps! There wasn't back then any serious chess in Greece; none of it!
Aug-04-11
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  whiteshark: <Sho> Wondrously and peculiarly interwoven we are. Simply delightful, indeed. :D
Aug-04-11  goodevans: This was a correspondence game??!!!
Aug-04-11  Funicular: I'll bet the postman knew little about chess, and as he ripped the envelope open and replied himself with Bxd8 he thought "hehe, i'm winning the game by myself". He told all his friends he had replied alone and had won a queen to the greeks. Then when the reply came he did not dare deliver the letter, nor translate the greek words of laughter written below. I bet the first ":P" smiley was used. As in "Bg4! :P"
Aug-04-11
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  playground player: The whole city of London produced this cock-up? Yikes!
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