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Zaw Win Lay vs Wynn Zaw Htun
"Win-Win Scenario" (game of the day Dec-01-2009)
GM Scheveningen, Yangon (1999), Yangon MYA, rd 4, Feb-03
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. English Attack (B90)  ·  1-0
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Dec-01-09
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  WannaBe: What the egad is going on with the names?????
Dec-01-09
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  WannaBe: 28...Nf6, does that hold??
Dec-01-09
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Personally, I find their names rather more reasonable on the tongue than Znosko-Borovsky vs Dus Chotimirsky, 1903.

I don't know if 28...Nf6 deals with White's threat of 29.fxg6 and 30.gxh7++.

Dec-01-09
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  Breunor: I think black could just play 29 B x f6?
Dec-01-09
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  sfm: Great pun!
Dec-01-09
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  sfm: <An Englishman: I don't know if 28...Nf6 deals with White's threat of 29.fxg6 and 30.gxh7++.> Not really. Also, it does not deal with the threat of 29.Bxf6 ;-) What can we learn from this game? Maybe "If the opponent has a queent, two bishops, a rook and a two pawns attacking your king, grabbing a pawn on a4 could make it worse" ?
Dec-01-09  paavoh: If I recall correctly, these guys were notorious for the inflation of their ratings by facing each other many times in Burmese tournaments. Any update and/or verification of this?
Dec-01-09  paavoh: Lazy me... already posted by <offramp> on the player page at: Zaw Win Lay
Dec-01-09  RandomVisitor: After 16.exd5 back has an improvement and possibly his last chance at counterplay:

1: Zaw Win Lay - Win Zaw Tun, GM Scheveningen, Yangon 1999


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Analysis by Rybka 3 :

<[+0.14] d=22 16...Nxd5> 17.Bxd5 exd5 18.Nxd5 Bxd5 19.Qxd5 Nxa4 20.Ne6 fxe6 21.Qxe6+ Rf7 22.Rd7 Qc4 23.Rxe7 Qxe6 24.Rxe6 Nxb2 25.Bxb6 Rxc2 26.Re8+ Rf8 27.Rxf8+ Kxf8 28.Ra1 Rc4 29.h3 Rxf4 30.Rxa6 Nd3 31.Kg2 Ne1+ 00:35:03 532709kN, tb=2

Dec-01-09  romerno: <paavoh> I think such allegation is a bit harsh to the players most of whom lack sponsors, and experience of playing internationally. Besides, chess is not as popular in Burma, and I suspect a few top players there ended up playing with each other again and again.
Dec-01-09  Sem: <An Englishman> Do I detect a good old insular distaste for the Continent? For your information, Dus Chotimirsky was once seen translating French poetry into Russian while playing a difficult endgame in a tournament. This may of course only increase your distaste.
Dec-01-09  Defiler: 26. Qg5 seems to win too to me.
Dec-01-09  Tartalacreme: Fide pwned their ratings for great justice. http://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?ev...

This player lost 200 points without playing a single game.

Dec-01-09  ounos: <paavoh: If I recall correctly, these guys were notorious for the inflation of their ratings by facing each other many times in Burmese tournaments. Any update and/or verification of this?> Playing with the same opponent again and again can't raise both ratings. But I do recall such stories.
Dec-01-09  paavoh: @ounos, romerno:

Sorry about my less-than-clear description. I did not mean to imply that these two gentlemen were just playing each other. <offramp> has posted a story how the trick was done at the Zaw Win Lay page.

Dec-01-09  RandomVisitor: After 17.Nf5 white has an advantage:

1: Zaw Win Lay - Win Zaw Tun, GM Scheveningen, Yangon 1999


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Analysis by Rybka 3 :

<[+0.80] d=23 17...Rcd8> 18.Bd4 Ne6 19.Be5 Qc5+ 20.Kh1 03:16:57 3303395kN

Dec-01-09  ungeneral: How about "Lay Zaw Win"?
Dec-01-09  WhiteRook48: what's the difference...
Dec-02-09
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: <Sem>, I have no good old insular distate for the Continent. Indeed, 'twould be the height of hypocrisy for my ilk to complain about names. We English have names as peculiar as you shall find anywhere on the planet--"Sheffield Wednesday" and "spotted dick" being two fine examples. I merely find Zaw Win Lay easier to pronounce than Znosko-Borovsky.
Dec-02-09
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  kevin86: Space advantage decides this one
Dec-03-09  Sem: Thank you, <An Englishman>, glad to hear it. I know about the peculiarity of British names such as Ruislip, J.M. Keynes and Milton Keynes, Hodder & Stoughton, Cholmondely, Featherstonehaugh, Mainwaring, Strachan and what have you, but they are all very dear to me. Best to you!
Dec-03-09  goodevans: I know these guys have ratings far beyond what I ever achieved, but 21 ... g6? What on earth is that all about? It's tantamount to saying "here, take complete control of the square just in front of my king".

Of course black's position was already pretty uncomfortable by then anyway, but I wouldn't even have given 21 ... g6 a second's thought.

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