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|Apr-19-06|| ||al wazir: <SJP: 6. Ne5 dxc4 7. Kh1 Qd5 8. Ng4 h5 9. Nf2 Bf5 10. Nc3 Nf6 seems likely>|
I was thinking along the lines of 6...dxc4 7. Qh5+ g6 8. Nxg6. Why did you suggest 7. Kh1 ?
|Apr-19-06|| ||Jack Kerouac: Ward used to beat June Cleaver as well, but the Beaver had Wally 'straighten him out'.|
|Apr-19-06|| ||kevin86: The opening was different:like a reverse-side Muzio. This is even inferior to the Muzio for black as his king position is even more open.|
A-Ward winning game,rather clever-(or did I say Cleaver?) pun.
|Apr-19-06|| ||ajile: <al wazir: <SJP: 6. Ne5 dxc4 7. Kh1 Qd5 8. Ng4 h5 9. Nf2 Bf5 10. Nc3 Nf6 seems likely>
I was thinking along the lines of 6...dxc4 7. Qh5+ g6 8. Nxg6. Why did you suggest 7. Kh1 ?>|
Actually Black doesn't have to take the bishop on move 6. Simply 6...Bc5+ or 6...Nf6 and what does White do now? At the very least he's giving Black a nice center with no compensation.
|Apr-19-06|| ||ajile: Note that after 6...Bc5+ Black will followup with 7...Nf6 ruining White's plan of QH5+.|
|Apr-19-06|| ||Landman: It's an odds game. White started a Knight down.|
|Apr-19-06|| ||chiguire: Thanks for the correction <chanco and Landman> I have deleted my rantings.
I guess this is another evidence of my rookiness to the game.
|Apr-19-06|| ||Gypsy: <chiguire: Thanks for the correction <chanco and Landman> I have deleted my rantings. I guess this is another evidence of my rookiness to the game. > It is actually better to leave such posts in. No problem with being a 'rookie' or confused about something. But deleting comments that are already imbedded in the sequence creates lots of hanging, non-sequitur posts.|
And welcome to the site!
|Apr-19-06|| ||SJP: <ajile, al wazir> 7. Kh1 prevents 7...Qd5+, winning the e5 Knight and any further checks Black can make which gain tempi in the main lines of the Muzio.|
|Apr-19-06|| ||SJP: I've played many games as White in situations such as this over the years, and always find it prudent to play this move if the position demands it. Ignoring Black's counter chances, even in openings such as this is dangerous.
Incidentally, <al wazir> the Qh5+ idea makes for quite a strong line. I'll see if I can dig up a game or two from my "archive".|
|Apr-19-06|| ||ajile: Well it appears that this line is busted for White since Black doesn't have to accept any of the sacrifices that White offers. And after Ne5 (even if you play Kh1 first) Black always has Nf6 blocking Qh5. I don't think there's any way to justify 4.Bc4 in this position.|
|Apr-19-06|| ||Halldor: Short and odd! I got 13.♕xf6+ after long thinking, until then I thought White was sinking.|
|Apr-19-06|| ||belgradegambit: Was I the only one expecting a game between Chris Ward and Walter Browne?|
|Apr-19-06|| ||AlexanderBayouBoy: <al wazir:I was thinking along the lines of 6...dxc4 7. Qh5+ g6 8. Nxg6. Why did you suggest 7. Kh1 ?>|
in case it wasn't explained well enough above for anyone:
6... dxc4 7. Qh5+ g6 8. Nxg6 Qd4+ 9. Kh1 hxg6
|Apr-19-06|| ||ajile: 6...Nf6|
|Apr-20-06|| ||SJP: I've unearthed this game I played a couple of years ago with this opening.|
SJP - NN
Staffs. Tournament (Round 2, 2001)
King's Gambit Accepted, Irregular
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 f5 4. Bc4 fxe4 5. 0-0 d5 6. Nc3 Bc5+ 7. Kh1 dxc4 8. Nxe4 Bb6 9. Nfg5 Nf6 10. Nxf6+ Qxf6 11. Qh5+ g6 12. Qh6 Bf5 13. d4 Qf8 14. Qh4 h6 15. Re1+ Kd7 16. Nf3 g5 17. Ne5+ Kc8 18. Qf2 Qg7 19. c3 Re8 20. Nxc4 Rxe1+ 21. Qxe1 Qf7 22. b3 Qe6 23. Ba3 Be4 24. Ne5 Bd5 25. Bb2 Qh3 26. Qe2 Qf5 27. c4 Bf7 28. b4 c6 29. b5 Nd7 30. Nxf7 Qxf7 31. bxc6 bxc6 32. c5 f3 33. Qa6+ Kc7 34. cxb6+ Nxb6 35. Re1 f2 36. Rf1 Qc4 37. Qxc4 Nxc4 38. Rxf2 Rb8 39. Bc1 Rb1 40. Rf1 Nd2? 41. Re1 Ne4 42. Bf4+ gxf4 43. Rxb1 1-0
|Apr-23-06|| ||ajile: I don't think Black can afford to take the bishop on c4 on move 7. I will check out your game when I get home and have a chess set. I'm guessing 7..Nf6 would be better. Black needs to get his king 0-0 to safety before allowing the center to be opened.|
|Apr-23-06|| ||SJP: <ajile> My Shredder recommends 7...dxc4, but I do think 7...Nf6 is better. I think the computers don't like the latter because of 8. Qe2 dxc4 9. Nxe4 Qe7 10. Nxf6+ gxf6 11. Qxc4 and White has a better position than in lines with 7...dxc4.|
|Apr-24-06|| ||ajile: Computers are greedy. I'd rather have the nice pawn center and get my king to safety then go for the material advantage but end up in a king hunt. |
Especially if it's MY king being chased around the board.
|Apr-24-06|| ||SJP: *chuckles*|
|May-07-08|| ||JimmyVermeer: In Laszlo Polgar's book, the player's name is spelled Brown (without the e). Anyone know which is correct?|
|May-07-08|| ||Calli: <JimmyVermeer> The players are W.G. Ward vs H. Browne |
source: Chess Sparks, game 184
|May-10-08|| ||JimmyVermeer: Thanks, Calli.|
|Jan-25-09|| ||WhiteRook48: man, Ward sacrifices a lot in the opening. Can we call him an Anderssen?|
|Apr-03-11|| ||Llawdogg: Wow! Those were the good old days of chess: odds, sacrifices, and quick checkmates. Very nice.|
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