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Wesley So vs Fouad El Taher
"Wesley Snipes" (game of the day Apr-06-2007)
8th Dubai Open (2006), rd 4, Apr-26
Bishop's Opening: Vienna Hybrid. Spielmann Attack (C26)  ·  1-0
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Jan-27-17  saturn2: The move sequence Bxf7 Qg6 and Ng5 (or f6 depending on blacks reaction) should decide.
Jan-27-17  Timi: The only more difficult task about this puzzle is to find 14. f6, and not the draw- leading 14. Ng5, which many would probably choose
Jan-27-17
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  ChessHigherCat: The sac obviously works here but you should look before you leap <FrogC> because there are lots of "spoilers" especially designed to entice you into making bad sacrifices.
Jan-27-17  centralfiles: Sorry i left out pawn on g5 before in diagram here's a corrected version

After 6...Nf2


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13.?

Jan-27-17  centralfiles: I actually checked with stockfish and the fish thinks there are other winning lines as well. I had looked at this years ago with old program which couldnt find any win at all.
Jan-27-17  centralfiles: So here's my old analysis
13.Bb5+ Kb6
14.Qb3 c6
15.Nd5+ cxd5
16.Be8+ Kc7
17.gxh8=Q


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It seems white is doing great with 2 good Queens and no rook deficit and Stockfish is indeed evaluating at =2.75
yet after ...Bd7 black will win yet another piece and whites queens are awkard without supporting pieces Black seems to have chances here.

Jan-27-17  centralfiles: Though i admit a computer will win with white.
As a human i woudnt be comfortable at all.
Jan-27-17  centralfiles: Instead
13.Qd5+ Kd7
14.Nf3!!


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and none of the many moves black has to defend against Nxe5+ can save the day see for yourself.

Jan-27-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <centralfiles: So here's my old analysis 13.Bb5+ Kb6
14.Qb3 c6
15.Nd5+ cxd5
16.Be8+ Kc7
17.gxh8=Q">

I think something's wrong because on move 16 the black king is still on b6 so Be8 can't be a check
Jan-27-17  Vyrak: Does Wesley Snipes even plays chess?
If he does, then his repertoire must be: Dragon Sicilian, Orang-Outang opening and his favorite player "iron Tiger" Petrosian
Jan-27-17  RandomVisitor: After 6.f5


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Komodo-10.1-64bit:

-0.07/28 6...Bf2+ 7.Kf1 Ne3+ 8.Bxe3 Bxe3 9.Qh5 0-0 10.Nf3 Nd7 11.Nd5 Nf6 12.Nxf6+ Qxf6 13.Ke2 Bb6 14.Qg5 Qxg5 15.Nxg5 a5 16.h4 h6 17.Nf3 c6 18.a4 d5 19.Bb3 Rd8 20.g4 f6 21.c3 Kh7 22.h5 Bc5 23.exd5 cxd5 24.d4 exd4

-0.03/28 6...h5 7.Nh3 c6 8.Qf3 b5 9.Bb3 Bb7 10.Bg5 Nf6 11.0-0-0 Nbd7 12.a3 a5 13.Ne2 Qb6 14.Kb1 0-0 15.Ba2 d5 16.Rhe1 b4 17.a4 Rac8 18.Ng3 Bd4 19.Bxf6 Nxf6 20.Nxh5 Nxh5 21.Qxh5 f6 22.Bb3 Qc7 23.g4

0.00/28 6...Ne3 7.Bxe3 Bxe3 8.Qf3 Bc5 9.Nh3 0-0 10.Na4 Bd4 11.c3 Qd7 12.b3 b5 13.cxd4 bxc4 14.f6 gxf6 15.dxc4 Nc6 16.Qxf6 Nxd4 17.Qg5+ Kh8 18.Qf6+ Kg8

Jan-27-17  centralfiles: <chc> Discovered check by Queen on b3
Jan-27-17
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  ajk68: Thanks <RandomVisitor>. I was trying to figure out why not play 6...Bf2+, ?
Jan-27-17  TMNMINH: 11. Bxf7+ Kxf7
12. Qg6+ Kf8
13. Ng5 ... (following by Qf7#)

13. ... Qe7
14. Nh7#

13. ... Ke7
14. Qf7#

13. ... Qf6
14. Kh7+ (Black loses Queen)

13. ... Qc7
14. f6 Rh8
15. fxg7++ Ke7
16. Rf7+ Ke8
17. g8Q+ Rxg8
18. Qxg8#

13. ... Qc7
14. f6 gxf6
15. Rxf6+ Ke7
16. Rf7+ Ke8
17. Qxg8#

Jan-27-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <centralfiles: <chc> Discovered check by Queen on b3> Aha, I see. I hate to say it but I don't think that's any better than my continuation above. The main difference is that I anticipated a6 instead of c6: 13. Bb5+ Kb6
14. a4 a6 (if Bxe6 a5#)
15. Qb3 Ka7
16. gxh8
TMNMINH's line looks much better than ours.
Jan-27-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <TMNMINH> = Too Many Nights Moonlighting In New Hampshire?
Jan-27-17  Sularus: bishop sac is obvious so i'll go with it. solved up to the queen capture.
Jan-27-17
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  PawnSac: < Sularus: bishop sac is obvious so i'll go with it. solved up to the queen capture. >

that's all that is necessary. NObody is going to solve a position 10 moves deep over the board in an opening position. That is done only in home prep. 10 deep is not a big deal counting squares in endings, but when you see from the bishop sac up to 14.f6 and can assess that as an obviously winning position there is no need to think deeper. But ChessHigherCat is correct, must watch for spoilers.

Jan-27-17  RandomVisitor: After 6.f5, final look


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Komodo-10.1-64bit:

<+0.00/37 6. ... h5 7.Nh3 Nc6> 8.Ng5 Nf2 9.Nxf7 Qh4 10.Bg5 Nxd3+ 11.Kd2 Qf2+ 12.Qe2 Qxe2+ 13.Kxe2 Nxb2 14.Nxh8 Nd4+ 15.Kf2 Nxc4 16.Kg3 b5 17.Raf1 Bb7 18.f6 gxf6 19.Rxf6 0-0-0 20.Ng6 d5 21.exd5 Bb4 22.Ne4 Nxc2 23.Rb1 a5 24.Rf2 Rxd5 25.Rxb4 Nxb4 26.Ne7+ Kd7 27.Nxd5 Bxd5 28.Nf6+ Ke6 29.Kh4 Nd3 30.Re2 Nf4 31.Bxf4 Kxf6 32.Bg3 Bf7 33.Re1 Bd5 34.Kxh5 Bxg2 35.Kg4 Bc6 36.h4 Bd7+ 37.Kf3

+0.20/37 6...Bf2+ 7.Kf1 Ne3+ 8.Bxe3 Bxe3 9.Qh5 0-0 10.Nf3 c6 11.Re1 Bh6 12.g4 Bf4 13.Kg2 a5 14.a4 Nd7 15.Ne2 d5 16.Bb3 Nc5 17.Nxf4 exf4 18.e5 Nxb3 19.cxb3 Ra6 20.Rhf1 Rb6 21.Kh1 c5 22.e6 fxe6 23.Ng5 h6 24.Nxe6 Bxe6 25.fxe6 Qe7 26.Qxd5 Rb4 27.Rf3 b6 28.h3 Rd8 29.Qe5 Rd6 30.Rxf4 Rxf4 31.Qxf4 Rxd3 32.Kh2 g5 33.Qb8+

+0.22/37 6...Ne3 7.Bxe3 Bxe3 8.Qf3 Bg5 9.Nh3 Bh4+ 10.g3 Be7 11.Nd5 Nd7 12.Nxe7 Qxe7 13.a3 Nb6 14.Bb3 Bd7 15.Nf2 0-0-0 16.Ng4 Kb8 17.0-0-0 Qe8 18.Kb1 Ba4 19.Ba2 h5 20.Ne3 Bc6 21.Qf2 Nd7 22.h3 b6 23.Rhe1 Nf6 24.Bc4 Bb7 25.c3 c6 26.Ba2 d5 27.exd5

Jan-28-17
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  PawnSac: Interesting match-up this game..

Egyptian Taher was 51 playing a 13 year old. Taher was rated 2481 Jan 06, 2468 at the time of this game (May 06) and 2480 in July 06. He was an already established IM paired with an up and coming star rated 2254 but at the beginning of a 300 point rating climb to 2519 one year later and 2674 by July 2010.

Jan-28-17  centralfiles: <chc> use a real board you'll see a big difference.
Jan-28-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <centralfiles: <chc> use a real board you'll see a big difference> Okay, in terms of the position of the individual pieces but in terms of the outcome we're both far behind TMNMINH's (or his computer's) lines, which all lead to checkmate or win the queen.
Jan-29-17  centralfiles: ok ill explain
Your line a4 allowed ...a6 giving black a Square to escape to which the immediate Qb3 avoids allowing white to get in Be8+ so after gxh1=Q black cannot play QxQ. Thta being said this was the line that wasnt best. In the next post i posted the correct line.
Jan-29-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <centralfiles: As I see no one here managed to find the beautiful continuations after 6...Nf2 I'll post them now about 10 years late.> I only started the analysis based on your first moves because according to what you said above, it sounded like you already knew the best line and were making us guess what it. Since the whole line is inferior I don't see the point of going into a detailed analysis of it, although it may lead to an advantage, too
Jan-30-17  centralfiles: You idnt read all my posts my last post with 13.Qd5+ Kd7 14.Nf3!! was the best line.
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