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Mieke Maeckelberg vs Sue Maroroa
37th Chess Olympiad: Women 2006  ·  Italian Game: Classical Variation. Greco Gambit Traditional Line (C54)  ·  1-0


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Sep-06-06   EmperorAtahualpa: I'm not sure how White wins here. Is it because the knight is heading to d6? If so, 14...Nb6 should be a good reply.
Sep-06-06   p0ubelle: Oh,I got a bleeding nose. and some italian nurse stuck iodine up my nose.and i couldn't play. so i resigned. and yup

That's the reason why...

Sep-06-06   p0ubelle: Black resigns.

Because i couldn't play on,as off the bored i had a bleeding nose ;-; then the italian nurses put something up it.
then i resigned.

not my best games in Torino
-sigh-

Sep-06-06   EmperorAtahualpa: <not my best games in Torino
-sigh->

<p0ubelle> So which is your favorite game in this database?

Sep-06-06   p0ubelle: None.

I think i play @#$% chess.Especially Torino.

I'll try and find my game against this lady... that was pretty cool! -.-

Nov-11-06   Stanley Yee: I prefer 3 Bc4 over 3 Bb5, as I think the Ruy Lopez allows Black an easy game. I also face weaker players. The Moller Attack with 7. Nc3 Nxe4 8. O-O Bxc3 9. d5 drops a pawn and can end up a draw or in Black's favour. What do you out there think of the Bayonet Attack with 9. ... Bb4+ Bf6 10. Re1 Ne7 11. Rxe4 d6 12. g4 to win the pawn back? Has anyone got some games with this line?

7Bd2 doesn't drop a pawn and has the trap 7 ... Nxe4 8 Bxb4 Nxb4 9 Bxf7+ and White is slightly better as long as he doesn't play Ne5+ before 0-0 as that allows ... Qg5.

The Opening Explorer favours 7 Bd2. Which do you prefer?

Nov-12-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jonathan Sarfati: Evidently Black forgot to play 8 ...d5, understandable with the health problems. Black's objectively best way to procede is Short vs Karpov, 1989 but in a previous game Miles vs Korchnoi, 1979 Black played successfully for a win although I think that position is objectively OK for White.

9.e5 might have been better, ...d5 notwithstanding. White had pressure coming against the Pc7, but resignation would not normally be an option.

<Stanley Yee>: The Møller is not supposed to be sound -- see L Barczay vs Portisch, 1969. There are some notes to try to rehabilitate, but they don't seem convincing.

Nunn's "Secrets of Practical Chess" demolishes Soltis's recommendations. He comes to the opposite conclusion: "Winning with the Ruy Lopez" is a valid title because top GMs, including world champs, often use the Ruy to play for a win. But there are very few takers for the Italian.

The Bayonet can be met by ... h6. Some of the key wins for White had Black playing very cooperatively.

Nov-13-06   Stanley Yee: Many thanks, Jonathan. Your info has been more valuable than any chess book! I have gone over the games that you’ve selected and they are very instructive indeed. I am now absolutely convinced that the Ruy Lopez is the best choice. Believe me, this has not been easy for me, as I have had some success against the Two Knights’ Defence, so was reluctant to give up 3 Bc4. But I have grappled over the Giuoco Piano for some time, and could not find a clear or lasting advantage for White. I even remembered that you used to play it as Black, so I found a game of yours that was played 4 years before the Karpov game. Looks like he copied you!

[Event "All Wellington Championship"]
[Site "Wellington, New Zealand"]
[Date "1985.??.??"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Ker, Anthony"]
[Black "Sarfati, Jonathan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C54"]
[PlyCount "28"]
[EventDate "1985.??.??"]
[EventCountry "NZL"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. d4 exd4 6. cxd4 Bb4+ 7. Bd2 Bxd2+ 8. Nbxd2 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Qb3 Na5 11. Qa4+ Nc6 12. Qb3 Na5 13. Qa4+ Nc6 14. Qb3 Na5 1/2-1/2

[Event "14, Skelleftea WCup ;CBM 14"]
[Site "14, Skelleftea WCup ;CBM 14"]
[Date "1989.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[White "N Short"]
[Black "Karpov Anatoli"]
[ECO "C54"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "26"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. d4 exd4 6. cxd4 Bb4+ 7. Bd2 Bxd2+ 8. Nbxd2 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Qb3 Na5 11. Qa4+ Nc6 12. Qb3 Na5 13. Qa4+ Nc6 1/2-1/2

Nov-15-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jonathan Sarfati: All the best with the Ruy, Stanley. Yes, I have had that game with Michael Hampl in a NZ Champs as well. Truth be known, I first saw it played in Miles v Korchnoi, which doesn't seem to be on Chessgames.com. Here is an example of what happens when White tries to avoid the draw:

Smerdon,D - Sarfati,J
[C54]
Queensland Championship (1), 02.08.1998
[Surridge,John]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Bc5 5.c3 Nf6

I think this is Black's best, reaching the Italian by transposition.

6.cxd4 Bb4+ 7.Bd2 Bxd2+ 8.Nbxd2 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Qb3 Na5 11.Qa4+ Nc6 12.Ne5?! [12.Qb3 Na5 as per the games you noted]

12...0-0! 13.Nxc6 Qe8+! 14.Kd1 Nb6 15.Qb5 bxc6 16.Qc5 Nxc4 17.Qxc4 Be6 18.Qc5 Qd7 19.h3?!

Probably the final straw

19...Rfd8 20.Nf3 Rab8 21.b3 Rb5! 22.Qxa7 c5 23.Rc1 Bd5 24.Re1 Ra8

To paraphrase the late GM Gufeld, "She come into my house. I not invite her. So she must die there."

25.Ne5 Qd8 26.Rxc5 Rxa7 27.Rxb5 f6 28.Nd3 Rxa2 0-1

Nov-17-06   Stanley Yee: A most instructive Giuoco Piano game that highlights the firepower Black has at his/her disposal if White loses his/her way. I will add this to my small collection of games/reasons of why I gave up playing 3 Bc4. PS I have bought a Ruy Lopez book! Thanks again Jonathan.
Jul-16-07   openingspecialist: <Jonathan Safarti> wow Smerdon must have been young he plays 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4 - i play his lines having had my mate who got coached by him teach me the lines. I'm now looking at going into this style of play except Nc3 not Bd2 going into a Bxf7 sideline which is crushing with 1.5 pawns compensation for the pawn.

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