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Jonny Hector vs Niels Kirkegaard
"The Wrong Philosophy" (game of the day Feb-08-2007)
Politiken Cup (2006), Copenhagen, rd 4, Jul-25
Indian Game: General (A45)  ·  1-0
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Feb-08-07  podjevsky: I met Hector in a simul once, thought I did quite allright playing black against the Scotch opening. I even thought I had an advantage in the middle-game. Then the endgame started and he basically just ran me over...

I made a few inaccurate moves and the rest was just technique.

Feb-08-07  Ingolf: Btw, this game is an example of the earliest possible long castle. I wonder in how many games that has happened. Probably around 0,01% of all games.
Feb-08-07
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  cu8sfan: <Ingolf> Check out N Kirkegaard vs J Adamski, 2006.
Feb-08-07
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  Wild Bill: Running this game through Fritz, our silicon friend says that <4. -- c5> is not particularly good, preferring instead <4. -- e6>, which would support the d-pawn and aid development. The game actually seems to be lost by Black's seventh move <(7. -- dxe4?)>. This opens up the d-file, where White has already concentrated his heavy pieces. The Bishop-and-Rook mate on d8 is set up by this move, putting the Black King in an existential crisis.

Perhaps Angst set in and Black made the absurd move <8. -- Qa5>, which only lost faster than <8. -- Be7 9. Bxf6 Bxf6 10. Nd6+>.

Feb-08-07  Tactic101: I don't get why this is a game of the day. Black played badly and lost the game quickly. Hardly something I would put in the Game of the Day Hall of Fame. There are games which deserve the honor, but they are not getting it. Chessgames.com, please put better games as game of the day! What we are getting now is pretty low grade quality.
Feb-08-07  Mazettakos: Poor guy Kirkegaard, roba se kanane (that was greek to you!)
Feb-08-07
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  TheAlchemist: <cu8sfan> Added. Thanks!
Feb-08-07  Larsker: <Tactic101: I don't get why this is a game of the day.> Because of the pun. Btw, <Kirkegaard> means graveyard in Danish.
Feb-08-07
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  Wild Bill: <Larsker:>

The philosopher and theologian spelled his name <Kierkegaard>. It means "church yard".

Feb-08-07
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  kevin86: I think that black did everything in his power to open the d file against his king. He also didn't develop his pieces. The penalty is mate in one move following ♕xb5 by ♖d8# or ♗d7 by ♗xd7#
Feb-08-07  sfm: <Tactic101: I don't get why this is a game of the day. Black played badly and lost the game quickly>

Can also happen in GM-games, zillions of examples. Should they never appear here?

If we only saw high quality GM-games we might forget that real bad things can happen from a couple of early not-the-best moves. Black's moves here look quite plausible and appear in numerous openings where the position is just a little different.

Still, suddenly it is all over! Enjoyable, instructive and scary...

Feb-08-07
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  keypusher: Right on, <sfm>. This game is a wonderful demonstration of basic tactics. Black didn't play too well in Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard, 1858, either. In fact, Kierkegaard played a lot better than many famous losers.
Feb-08-07
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  fm avari viraf: An elegant brevity! When one does not pay heed to the set of principles, one is bound to meet catastrophe!
Feb-08-07  schnarre: <podjevsky><"I made a few inaccurate move and the rest was just technique."> I think all of us have been there at some point or other!
Feb-08-07  beatles fan: he was absolutely slaughtered
Feb-08-07  waddayaplay: <Ingolf: Btw, this game is an example of the earliest possible long castle. I wonder in how many games that has happened. Probably around 0,01% of all games.> Because of my love for trivia, I did a search, and indeed very few games have the move o-o-o at move 5. I found a couple of dozen games, but most of them are not in the CG database. The only game I've found so far that is here is J Benjamin vs D Gurevich, 1989
Feb-08-07  chestknot1: <Tactic101>Whilst I agree that I wouldnīt want to see this kind of game everyday, it does remind me of some of my own games against a computer, when it makes a move I havenīt met and therefore has some instructive points. 4...c5 does nothing for blacks development ect. If faced with the same situation I Do hope I would last more than 12 moves.
Feb-08-07
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  Sneaky: I signed up for the Philosophy class in college because it sounded easy. Boy was I wrong--there was sooooo much to read. By the time I got done reading my survey of all of these "great minds in philosophy" I gained a deep respect ... for the people in this world who actually work for a living, instead of writing all of this namby-pamby drivel.

Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Sartre, Camus ... what a pack of BUMS.

Feb-08-07  Bare Beginner: Was e4! the winning move? Or simply the natural continuation in this situation to which Blk errored?
Feb-09-07  Cyphelium: <Sneaky> Would you extend your 'get-a-real-job-ethics' to professional chess players, whose occupation and writings are also useless and incomprehensible to most people?
Feb-09-07  Shams: I assume Sneaky is being facetious. :)

Shams' trick for reading philosophy, if you must: start with Heidegger. After that, everything else reads like Dr. Seuss.

Feb-09-07
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  keypusher: <Shams' trick for reading philosophy, if you must: start with Heidegger. After that, everything else reads like Dr. Seuss.>

Or, to attack the problem from the other end, so to speak, start with Plato, and then stop.

Easy with the hating of 4....c5, people. It's not a directly developing move, but neither is 4...e6, which is presumably what Black should have played. 4....c5 frees a diagonal for the queen and prepares to knock out White's QP. It turns out to be a little slow in this particular opening, but in QP openings generally it's absolutely standard.

Feb-09-07
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  Sneaky: I was being half facetious. I do see a lot of these "great thinkers" as doing little more than writing material for entertainment value. That's right, "entertainment!" It's out there for the enjoyment of people who decide to play the same game they are playing. A lot like books on chess in that respect!
Feb-09-07  GeauxCool: <Sneaky> Isocrates couldn't have written it better herself!

http://www.classicpersuasion.org/pw...

"...who would not detest and despise those who pass their time in sophistic chicanery? who pretend indeed, that they seek truth, but, from the beginning of their promises, labour to speak falsities."

Dec-09-14  billyhan: WHICH move(s) cause THIS to be considered an "Indian" game? Aside from "6. ..., e6", I don't see ANY pawns moving just ONE square (forward) on their 1st move.
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