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|Nov-20-06|| ||WannaBe: Capa is just soooooooooo over-rated. I can beat him with one-eye closed, and one arm tied behind my back (But he's got to give me Q + R odds plus 4 moves =)|
|Nov-21-06|| ||MrPatzer: <WannaBe: Capa is just soooooooooo over-rated. I can beat him with one-eye closed, and one arm tied behind my back> I can beat Capa too. Of course, the fact that he's dead helps considerably.|
|Nov-21-06|| ||JointheArmy: ^Actually that wouldn't even stop him from beating you. See Korchnoi vs. Marozcy http://jeff.zaadz.com/blog/2006/4/d...|
|Nov-21-06|| ||Albertan: <MrPatzer: What on Earth is going on here? Capa loses in 9 moves? Is this accurate? It looks like an attempted trap that didn't come off right at all.>|
Hi Mr.Patzer. For starters Capablanca's 5th move was poor, allowing 5....Ng4. Who knows why he played 5.f4 (although it seems to be the main continuation for White in this position according to my chessbase database: 49 games out of 144 played).I am not a Bishops Opening expert however to me it seems that the move 5.Nf3 is much more logical in the position in relation to 5.f4. Capablanca's sixth move 6.fxe5 is not even in my database,the only continuation I have White playing is 6.f5. Capablanca's 7th move Qf3 is not as good as 7.Qh5 which forces Black to worry about the mate on f7. Capablanca must have realized that after 7.Qf3 his opponent could simply castle and this would guard the f7 pawn adequately,so why then did he decide to play 7.Qf3 in the first place when the alternative of 7.Qh5 with this continuation of 7...O-O 8.Bg5 Qe8 9.Nd5!? Nxf2 10.Bf6 h6 11.Nf3 Nc6 12.exd6 cxd6 is possible?
By playing 8.Qg3 Capablanca must have been been seeing the idea of playing the obvious 9.Bh6 which wins material, however he simply overlooked the fact that after 9...Nxh1 he is simply down the exchange without any kind of compensation whatsoever for the material. The move 8.Qg3? was the big mistake which Capablanca committed in this game. Instead it appears that his best move (according to the computer analysis I did) is 8.d4 and after 8...Bxd4 9.Nge2 Bg4 10.Qxg4 Nxg4 11.Nxd4 Nxe5 although of course he would still be down alot of material (4 points) and not have enough compensation for it.
This simultaneous exhibition occurred in 1914, since Capablanca was born in 1888 this would have made him 26 years of age at the time of the game,so his age could not be used as an excuse for such a performance as this.However it is nice for us mere mortals to see one of the best players in the history of chess play such a game is it not? It shows us that even "they" can have their off "games" or off days :)
Mr.Patzer thanks for making the rest of the chessgames.com community aware of this game.
|Nov-21-06|| ||WannaBe: <JointheArmy> Fascinating article/read.|
|Nov-21-06|| ||whatthefat: <The game was conducted through the mail. It began in 1985 and lasted almost eight years.>|
Gee, he couldn't have cheated could he?
|Nov-21-06|| ||Phony Benoni: Hmmm The PGN gives the date as 1914.01.01. Would you have been at your best in a simul that day?|
|Nov-21-06|| ||keypusher: <phony benoni> Capablanca didn't drink, which proves he was just a fish.|
|Nov-21-06|| ||Billy Ray Valentine: This game doesn't look real to me. Even a mediocre amateur would probably play better moves than this. And of the all Capablanca games I've looked at, I've never seen an example of him playing such a risky or exotic opening.|
|Nov-21-06|| ||keypusher: <billy ray> Capablanca vs A Chase, 1922|
|Nov-21-06|| ||setebos: I guess this game proves every dog must have his day :)|
|Nov-21-06|| ||Billy Ray Valentine: Here are two other examples of similar fiascos by Capablanca at this simul on 01/01/1914 in the Vienna/Bishop's Opening:|
Capablanca vs K Ungern-Sternberg, 1914
Capablanca vs A Jurgenstein, 1914
|Nov-21-06|| ||Billy Ray Valentine: Interesting, keypusher. I didn't look hard enough, did I? |
That is strange seeing him play like that. I wonder what kind of opponent A Chase is--that's the only game by A Chase in the database...
|Nov-21-06|| ||keypusher: <billy ray> The Chase game was from a simultaneous exhibition, apparently. So I imagine Mr. Chase was just an enthusiastic amateur like you or me. Someone with a copy of <The Unknown Capablanca> might know more. |
Capablanca did not play the King's Gambit in serious games AFAIK. He never lost to it, either, I have read. But he played some fine King's Gambits in exhibitions and casual games.
Capablanca vs E S Maddock, 1922
Capablanca vs R Molina, 1914
Capablanca vs T A Carter, 1909
|Nov-21-06|| ||keypusher: <billy ray> PS -- wow, nice game by Mr. Jurgenstein! His only game in the database, too, alas.|
|Nov-21-06|| ||Billy Ray Valentine: Thanks keypusher... interesting games you mention. I guess Capablanca played games in exhibitions that he would never play against serious competition. Very amusing Kings Gambits by Capa!|
|Nov-21-06|| ||Archives: Typical patzer Capa game here. He is sooo overrated.|
|Jul-04-07|| ||sanyas: He was still a beginner at simuls. Perhaps he should have looked more than one move ahead here, eh?|
|Jul-04-07|| ||CapablancaFan: 4. Simple Nf3 would have prevented the ensuing carnage. Capa was new to Simuls, but yet I make no excuses for him, a loss is a loss.|
|Oct-12-07|| ||kevin86: Capa goes down in nine moves! This KO ranks up there with Foreman-Frazier in 1973 and Louis-Schmeiling in 1938.|
|Oct-12-07|| ||RookFile: Maybe Capa was drunk this day, who knows.
Although in Tal's case, that would just make him play better.
|Oct-12-07|| ||chancho: <RookFile> Allegedly, Capa did not drink nor smoke. His weakness was the ladies.|
|Mar-24-08|| ||D.Observer: Shocking, indeed. <What kind of <Capa-blunder> is this?!>|
|Aug-26-08|| ||GrahamClayton: According to the "Nordlivlansische Zeitung" of the 14th of March, 1914, Capablanca was suffering from a cold while giving the display, which probably explains his poor performance.|
|Jul-05-11|| ||FSR: 6.f5! is strong for White: Opening Explorer|
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