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|Oct-05-06|| ||lostemperor: <suenteus po 147> I don't think it will come to rapid tie-breaks. I found it hard to believe that Kramnik agreed to play on with the forfeit. I said then he may be sitting duck now against an ever growing Topalov. Although I hope not of course!|
|Oct-05-06|| ||Sith: If the match finish in draw? I mean like: Topalov 6 x 6 Kramnik? Who will get 1 Million dollar? Who will be accept as the world champion?|
|Oct-05-06|| ||boz: If Topalov wins the match by one point (meaning tied OTB) will the chess public view him as the true world champion? I mean this as an honest question.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||you vs yourself: <Sith> The prize money will be shared. $500,000 for each player no matter who the winner is. If it's tied at 6-6, they will play rapid tiebreaks.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||suenteus po 147: <boz> As an honest answer, the public will be split. Some will tell you that most everyone (majority and those who count) will recognize Kramnik, but I think they're out of touch with popular opinion and recent history. I think we'll see an even split, just like we did before. If anything, maybe Topalov will win more fans that way for creating controversy, interest, and more decisive games.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||Willem Wallekers: In that sport Max Euwe might have been the greatest of all times.
He was a rather good boxer as well.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||lucifershammer: <boz> I'm afraid there might be a lot of Kramnik supporters at first. But, as Topalov continues to put in good tournament performances over time, the chess world will grudgingly come to admit him as Champion.|
It's like Fischer-Karpov all over again.
|Oct-05-06|| ||adalav: It is not only a question of who plays better chess. We have seen great performances from Kramnik and Topalov all over the years. All the civilized world is for Kramnik because he is a gentleman. That's it.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||boz: Thanks suenteus po 147 and lucifershammer. I believe you are both right. More disagreement until subsequent tournament results help clarify. I would really like a clear cut winner here, though. I have felt disgusted by the off-board stunts perpetrated by Danailov. But we could be in for some thrilling chess now.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||babywizard: Let's just say the result of his match will be binding irrespective of what the fans think. Kramnik did threaten to sue FIDE should he not get game 5 back, but if he does sue and the court does not find in his favour, then he has no one to blame but himself for forfeiting game 5.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||Bufon: I cant still believe the imbecile of Kirsan made the rapid tie-breaks, but lets not worry Topalov fans, our champion will win another game, so, no tie-breaks.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||lopium: The tournament begins to be more and more interesting! As Kasparov said, it would be nice to see the winner take the title in the last game!|
|Oct-05-06|| ||slomarko: kramnik played 2 patzer moves in this game. f4 and Kg3|
|Oct-05-06|| ||Knight13: Topalov won!? Dang. First time!! Congrats! Good effort.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||KnightLunatic: <Bufon: TOPALOV WON!!!!! great to see that, now one more game and he will be the absolute champion!!!>|
Absolute? Keep dreaming....! If you have to convert a world Chess championship into a circus in order to win, then you don't even deserve to play for it!
If after game 4 Danailov didn't start all this hypocricy-festival in order to upset Kramnik and make him lose his concentration, then Kramnik now would be at 5-3 since he wouldn't lose today....
Topalov's statement that he believes Kramnik is playing "fair"(meaning he isn't cheating), doesn't mean _nothing_ if he doesn't fire the great statistician....
|Oct-05-06|| ||percyblakeney: <If Topalov wins the match by one point (meaning tied OTB) will the chess public view him as the true world champion?>|
It may well be so, regardless of the off the board stuff it would be hard to say that Topalov lost the match if the played games finished 5.5-5.5 apart from the forfeit.
|Oct-05-06|| ||TheSlid: Nice Mouse! <Knight13>.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||percyblakeney: <maybe Topalov will win more fans that way for creating controversy>|
This I doubt though...
|Oct-05-06|| ||Tommy Jensen: It looks like after 17.Rfc1 it already became an uphill battle for Kramnik. He missed 17.b3 after which he would have had a comfortable position.|
He misses 20.b3 as well, which is superior to 20.Qxb4. He seems to harbor some kind of inhibition against playing the b-pawn to b3...
|Oct-05-06|| ||samikd: <It looks like after 17.Rfc1 it already became an uphill battle for Kramnik. He missed 17.b3 after which he would have had a comfortable position.
He misses 20.b3 as well, which is superior to 20.Qxb4. He seems to harbor some kind of inhibition against playing the b-pawn to b3...>|
That may be so, but why did he go for this opening variation (starting with Bb5+ ) if he was going to get nothing out of it besides an inferior R vs 2 minors ending ? I have no idea what he saw in that ending.
I am sad. I wanted Kramnik not to lose
|Oct-05-06|| ||Knight13: <TheSlid> Nice Gozilla!|
|Oct-05-06|| ||suenteus po 147: Having played through this game, it looks to me like Kramnik's biggest miscalculation was giving Topalov the kind of position and material he thrives on. The material imbalance (and the type of material) seems to be what Topalov lives for. I'm much more nervous when Topalov has one rook (or none!) than I am when he has two. Kramnik needs to stick with sucking the life and potential out of the position <before> Topalov gets a lead. That forces him into pressing and potentially making errors. Creating a topsy-turvey position to begin with is playing right into Topalov's hands.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||percyblakeney: Kramnik has looked very stable apart from that mistake in the second game, but here Topalov looked the better player. Maybe it was a one-game thing though.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||HoLySmOkE: <KnightLunatic> when such statistics were made for Topalov you wasn's so unhappy. The result in this much, if everything was normal should have been +2 for Topa. The 2nd and the 8th game Topa outplayed Kramnik big. In all the other games Kramnik showed nothing but a little luck.|
|Oct-05-06|| ||HoLySmOkE: <percyblakeney:> It is quite clear that till now Topa plays the better chess.|
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