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Hans-Joerg Kaenel vs Dmitrijus Chocenka
European Club Cup 2006  ·  Zukertort Opening: Quiet system (A04)  ·  1-0


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Oct-16-06   cyruslaihy: doesn't e8 gives white the same material advantage?
Oct-16-06
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  greensfield: Many ways to skin this cat. I got 32.Qxb7
Oct-16-06
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  Peligroso Patzer: The version of Fritz that I use (7) rates the position after 31. ... Qxc8 as nearly +8.00 in White's favor, and there are many moves that preserve a huge advantage. Fritz7's first choice was 32. Qc6, with my personal; choice (32. Rd8+) taking second place.
Oct-16-06
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  greensfield: <cyruslaihy><ReikiMaster><An Englishman> Out of the several viable continuations suggested on this post ie 32.Qxb7
32.Qc6
32.Rd8+
32.e8=Q+
I found 32.e8=Q+ the most difficult to get to grips with to force a quick win.
Oct-16-06   ganesh957: Although the position is easy to play since it's obviously winning, it's quite difficult to find out THE best move.

According to F9, I didn't choose the best one with Qxb7, even if this is still winning.

Since the most efficient solution is not obvious I wouldn't call this puzzle a monday one.

Oct-16-06
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  gawain: I saw Rd8+ right away and was so satisfied that I did not look further.
Oct-16-06   Castle In The Sky: Got it. It's a Monday-Tuesday puzzle, as with most Monday puzzles, everyone complains that it's too easy. That's not happening today.
Oct-16-06   cizio2: 32.Qxb7 it's too easy.
Oct-16-06
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  ianD: MBM
Must be monday!
Oct-16-06
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  YouRang: Very easy. It's almost always wonderful to have a pawn on the 7th rank, a rook on an adjacent file, and the opponent's king on the 8th rank.
Oct-16-06
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  kevin86: It's not just a material gain,mate is in the offing for white. 33...Rxd8 34 exd8=Q+ Kg7(or Kf7) 35 Qf8#

or 33... Kg7 34 e8=Q threatens the rook and Qf8#-black is gone.

Oct-16-06   TopaLove: I think people who found 32.Rd8+ shouldnīt claim they solved the puzzle. 23.Qxb7 is a lot better. But I know itīs hard to assume you didnīt solve a monday puzzle. Thatīs a matter of ego...
Oct-16-06   zb2cr: Found 32. Qxb7 and the followup in a few seconds.
Oct-16-06   JYMMI: I've gotten this one, very easy puzzle.
Oct-16-06
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  playground player: Got the Queen sac right away (and the ensuing moves, too)--but then I had almost exactly the same position in an on-line game last night. I solved it when it counted, so solving the puzzle was easy.
Oct-16-06   Stonewaller2: I'm partial to 32. Rd8+ but it's a matter of taste. I'd rather play the Q vs. R endgame than the Q + B vs. Q, once I make luft for my K of course. Black's N isn't going much of anywhere after 32. ... Qxd8 33. exd8=Q+ Rxd8 34. g3 other than to get exchanged off; if he tries to defend it with 34. ... Rd7 or Rb8 then 35. Qc6 seals the deal.
Oct-16-06   ccolby: If
32. Rd8+ Nxd8
then
33. e8+ Kg7
34. Bf8+ Kg8 or Kh8
35. Bh6# by discovery
Oct-16-06   Trouble: this one was pretty easy
Oct-16-06   Holmstrom: Easy problem. Oh yes.
Oct-16-06   ennar: I know Mondays are easy... but there are so many solutions.
Oct-16-06   vinohradska: 30.. Qe8 was a terrible move for black, no? Why not 30.. Rxc2?
Oct-16-06   schnarre: Even I saw this one!
Oct-16-06
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  GannonKnight: I got it, but as you say, it's a tough position for White to lose.

How about 32. Rd8+ Qxd8 33. exd8Q+ Rxd8 34. Qxb7?? Rd1#

Oops ... overlooks the back rank mate. Well, maybe in blitz.

Oct-17-06   Suzuki50: <ccolby: If
32. Rd8+ Nxd8
then
33. e8+ Kg7
34. Bf8+ Kg8 or Kh8
35. Bh6# by discovery>

U didn't want 34. Qf8# ? (just for fun)
Oct-17-06   Stonewaller2: Last nite Ruffian found 34. ... Rd5 in my line given below but succumbed after 35. Bd6 Nxd6 36. Rxd6 Qc3, after which Black's K-side Ps fell.
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