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Vladimir Kramnik vs Veselin Topalov
Kramnik-Topalov World Championship Match (2006)  ·  Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Schallopp Defense (D12)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Oct-12-06
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  keypusher: Kramnik should be pleased with his prep -- he couldn't have asked for a better opening for this game.
Oct-12-06  ohlamesaint: Kramnik must be visiting the loo, and then .b5
Oct-12-06  Mateo: <orio24: < Mateo: 18...0-0 looks questionable for me as White has 19.b5, without the exchange of the a pawns. This is a point that is in White's favour in this kind of structure.> Why not? After 19. b5, he might defend 19.-f6 which might be an interesting way. Later, after c6 is defended well, he might think about g5, h6 etc. i.e. the rook could be used for both defence and attack.> You can do the same after 18...a6 19.a4 0-0 20.b5, the difference being that you can exchange the a pawns.
Oct-12-06  madkerrui: <Tomlinsky: If ever there was a time to consult the porcelein oracle...> ?? Toilet!
Oct-12-06  euripides: Kramnik likes using the queen on the b file in a monority attack: Kramnik vs Timman, 1995
Oct-12-06
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  twinlark: <acirce> yes but 0.35 is all that Vlad needs in this position.
Oct-12-06  mack: One step ahead of me as usual, <euripides>. I knew there was a Timman game that was relevant but I couldn't for the life of me remember anything else about it.
Oct-12-06  Per: At the press conference after the match:

"So, Vlady, what exactly DID you do all that time in the bathroom?

Well, first I flushed down Topalovs popularity and respect, and then I flushed down his title too"

Oct-12-06
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  Richard Taylor: IN Euwe's book Judgement and Planning in Chess the (Q-side) minority attack is the is the first topic in the book.
Oct-12-06
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  Richard Taylor: The Q on b2 watches f2 as well
Oct-12-06  themadhair: Radio commentry now talking about where "Topalov go wrong".
Oct-12-06  Ybrevo: Now, after exchanges on c6, Black will get a hanging pawn there. Topalov has to find counterplay fast, or he will be slowly grinded down by Kramnik. I guess...
Oct-12-06  orio24: < Mateo: <orio24: < ...> Why not? After 19. b5, he might defend 19.-f6 which might be an interesting way. Later, after c6 is defended well, he might think about g5, h6 etc. i.e. the rook could be used for both defence and attack.> You can do the same after 18...a6 19.a4 0-0 20.b5, the difference being that you can exchange the a pawns.>

Right, probably he prefers to open less files on the queen side (only b-file instead a and b-files), so white possible invasion is not that quick, on the other hand, yeah, he risks another weakness (a-pawn).

Oct-12-06  euripides: <mack> all I could remember was that it was Kramnik in the mid-1990s :-) Sokolov played the same idea against Lawrence Day recently.
Oct-12-06
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  acirce: <euripides> Yes, it was in Kramnik vs Timman, 1995 that Kramnik came up with the important novelty 11.Qb1 over the board.
Oct-12-06
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  Hesam7: Again Kramnik is more than 20 minutes behind on the clock ....
Oct-12-06
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  beenthere240: Well there goes the kingside attack.
Oct-12-06  euripides: Funnily, Topalov chose a similar structure in one of his most recent must-win games: Topalov vs Leko, 2006 It's good to know the 'Carlsbad structure; still has the potential to stretch the best opposition.
Oct-12-06  popski: Heh, I had a dream about draw of this game today & I bet on it, but I'll be happy to see my wrong dream prediction in Kramnik favour after 19. b5...
Oct-12-06  Mateo: <orio24: < Mateo: <orio24: < ...> Why not? After 19. b5, he might defend 19.-f6 which might be an interesting way. Later, after c6 is defended well, he might think about g5, h6 etc. i.e. the rook could be used for both defence and attack.> You can do the same after 18...a6 19.a4 0-0 20.b5, the difference being that you can exchange the a pawns.> Right, probably he prefers to open less files on the queen side (only b-file instead a and b-files), so white possible invasion is not that quick, on the other hand, yeah, he risks another weakness (a-pawn).> For instance, 20.bxc6 bxc6 21.Qb3 ready to go with the Queen to a4 in order to attack a7 and c6.
Oct-12-06  euripides: <IN Euwe's book Judgement and Planning in Chess the (Q-side) minority attack is the is the first topic in the book.> That book is a long love letter to Capablanca.
Oct-12-06
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  acirce: I'm worried about that potential counterplay with ..g5, ..f4. But it seems White is one step ahead on the queenside.
Oct-12-06  awalters869: Rab1 ...whats the rush to play bc6?
Oct-12-06  Dowell318: euripides: Funnily, Topalov chose a similar structure in one of his most recent must-win games: Topalov vs Leko, 2006 It's good to know the 'Carlsbad structure; still has the potential to stretch the best opposition. Not exactly. In that structure white didn't fianchetto the bishop. Also, the black pawns were more advanced there(on b5, c5 vice b7, c6). Those differences are dynamic and very important.
Oct-12-06
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  twinlark: <awalters> Now's time for Rab1
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