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Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik
Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006), Elista RUS, rd 13, Oct-13
Slav Defense: Czech Variation. Classical System (D19)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Oct-13-06  AdrianP: What happens after Rxa4 Rc1
Oct-13-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <Can you be more specific? sounds like half the doctors I know.>

<keypusher> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold...

Oct-13-06
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  Richard Taylor: <acrice> That's silly Topalov is a great chess player and probably quite a good person.
Oct-13-06  artemis: <controlaltdelete> he said MORE specific, not less ;)
Oct-13-06
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  Honza Cervenka: <What happens after Rxa4 Rc1> Be2 Rc2 Bf1 Rc1 etc.
Oct-13-06
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  technical draw: White has better chances.
Oct-13-06
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  Sneaky: <percyblakeney: 38. Bb3 is what Topoalov missed,...> I was looking at that, after 38...axb3 39.Rxa7 Rxa7 White is in a tough spot:


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Probably not possible to win that position.

Oct-13-06  lasherus: Well these matches have been a lot cheaper than art school.I'm learning how to draw really good!!!
Oct-13-06  percyblakeney: Draw.
Oct-13-06  square dance: 1/2-1/2
Oct-13-06  Stevens: i think they agreed a draw
Oct-13-06
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  chessgames.com: Drawn. Stay tuned for game #2, just stay on this page and we'll refresh into the next game.
Oct-13-06  The Sasn: Hello all - internet problems made me miss this game, looked like an interesting one - but draw now?
Oct-13-06
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  ketchuplover: Why did Topalov agree to a draw? Couldn't he time Kramnik out?
Oct-13-06
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  chrisowen: Solid from Kramnik, next game
Oct-13-06
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  technical draw: Bunch of drawniks...Drawing even a rapid game what a pair of cs.
Oct-13-06
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  Marmot PFL: Kranmnik has white now.
Oct-13-06
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  Honza Cervenka: <percyblakeney: 38. Bb3 is what Topoalov missed,...> 38...axb3 39.Rxa7 Rxa7 40.Qb2 (what else?) 40...Ra2 white has to return the Queen by 41.Ba3 Rxb2 42.Bxb2 Bd3 with advantage of black though the Bishops of opposite colours probably will save white.
Oct-13-06  percyblakeney: <Honza Cervenka> You're right!
Oct-13-06  percyblakeney: ...<Sneaky> too.
Oct-13-06  islero: <Kaspy: > <(after move 14) It looks like Topalov is already lost with white. Does he not understand chess at all? What is he doing? Did he think he was improving on game 2? Horrible, amazing...>

http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...

Amazing indeed

Oct-18-06  MaxxLange: <Why did Topalov agree to a draw? Couldn't he time Kramnik out?>

No, a player of this standard can make dozens of moves in this dead draw position in under a minute.

Oct-18-06  Archives: <Kaspy: > <(after move 14) It looks like Topalov is already lost with white. Does he not understand chess at all? Horrible...>

LOL!!

Hahaha that is funny!

Jan-11-09  crwynn: Kasparov's suggestion 20...Be4 is very interesting, after 21.Bd7 Rg2 22.Kf1, 22...Rh2 forces a draw but Black can also try 22...Ra8 (I thought of this move when I realized that d8 should be left for the queen in certain lines, also Black threatens 23...a6 trapping the bishop so why bother threatening it directly) and the position is very complicated, probably easier to play for Black even if it is objectively about even. My computer want's to play 23.b4, Black should probably take this pawn, it lets White exchange the active rook and bishop but Black gets 3 pawns for the piece, and still has some play against the open king.
Jan-11-09  crwynn: however, the computer move 20...a6!! is possibly objectively best, 21.Bd7 Rd8 22.Be6 fe 23.Rd1 (to play Bd2 right away) 23...Qc3 24.Bd2 Qe3 25.Be3 Be4 - Black will win the b-pawn, and the difference in activity between these bishops should give Black a big initiative.
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