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Csaba Csiszar vs Ben Purton
"Purton is Such Sweet Sorrow" (game of the day Feb-17-08)
European Club Cup 2006  ·  Rat Defense: See also: Modern Defense (for lines with ...g6) (A41)  ·  1-0


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Feb-17-08
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  hedgeh0g: What's the finish?
Feb-17-08   mindkontrolle: 27. ... Bxf6 28. Rh7# or 27. ... Bxg2 28. Bxg7, Rxg7 29. Rd8#
Feb-17-08
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  der623: The point is that material loss is inevitable, and Black will have no counterplay for it. If the Bg7 bishop moves, it is mate on h7. If the rook moves, the Bg7 bishop is lost. The Knight on a6 can only alternate between a6 and b8, and the a7 pawn is doomed.
Feb-17-08   oxxo: <mindkontrolle>

29. Rd8 is no mate due to 29... Rg8

Feb-17-08   mindkontrolle: sorry
Feb-17-08   Avarus: Nasty position to end up with.
Feb-17-08   somitra: <hedgeh0g: What's the finish?> Note that the position of Black is so bad that he can't do anything. After 27 ...Bxg2 28 Kxg2, Black does not have any good move. His K,R and B can't move. Even the knight is in a precarious position. Attempts to entangle it by c5 is answered by b5. After this the Knight gets blocked at b8.

As <Avarus> already mentioned, it's a <Nasty position to end up with.> :D

Feb-17-08   newzild: The final position is almost zugzwang! After exchanging bishops and moving a few pawns, black can only play Nb8. Then white plays Rxa7 and it's zugzwang.
Feb-17-08
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  tatarch: So whats the critical mistake here? Giving up the d file at move 21, or is it before then?
Feb-17-08
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  Sneaky: The final position reminds me of one of my own games, when I am scratching my head thinking "how could I possibly get into such a pickle?"
Feb-17-08   jovack: pretty standard game,

i dont know why black started destroying his position there at the end... one positional mistake after another and that's where he ends up

Feb-17-08   AniamL: A knight on the rim.....
Feb-17-08   Magic Castle: This is almost a zugswang. Two of black pieces are frozen, and the remaining pieces are powerless to inflict any harm. After the exchange of white bishops. The white king simply marches out and picks up the pawns.
Feb-18-08
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  tpstar: One line worth examining is 27 ... Bxg2 28. Kxg2 Nb8 29. Rxg7! Rxg7 30. Ne6 which wins material:


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After 30 ... Kg8 31. Bxg7 Kf7 32. Bxe5 Nd7 White escapes with 33. Ng5+ & 34. Bf4 up a piece. But Black could hope for 30 ... Kg8 31. Nxg7?! Nd7 (hitting the Bf6 while defending the Pe5) 32. Ne6 Kf7 and the fork regains the piece. From the diagram, note 30 ... Nd7 31. Bxg7+ Kh7 (31 ... Kg8 32. Bh6) 32. Nf8+.

As Black I would try 27 ... Bc4 28. Rxa7 Nb8 29. Rb7 and then resign anyway due to 29 ... Na6 30. Bxg7+ Rxg7 31. Rxb6, otherwise 30. Bxg7+ Rxg7 31. Rxb8+.

Feb-19-08
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  kevin86: This position for black was as frustrating for black as wearing a hazmat suit and coming up with an itchy nose-lol
Mar-11-08   Avarus: <tpstar> "One line worth examining is 27 ... Bxg2 28. Kxg2 Nb8 29. Rxg7! Rxg7 30. Ne6 which wins material"

As said earlier, black doesn't have good moves. Instead of 29.Rxg7?! I'd play 29.Rb7 Na6 30.h4 Now: a) N can't move (30..Nb8 31.Bxg7 and 32.Rxb8)
b) B can't move (30..Bxf6 31.Rh7x)
c) R can't move (or B is lost)
d) 30..c5 b5
e) 30..b5 31.axb5 cxb5 32.Kg1
f) 30..e4 31.Kg1

and at some point black has to play ..e3 fxe3 and move the knight finally to drop it.

Mar-11-08
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  tpstar: <Avarus> I agree with your lines which lead toward Zugzwang and material loss.

I disagree with assigning "?!" to a tactic that wins material. It is just as winning to cash in on an overwhelming positional advantage versus creating a Zugzwang situation.

Mar-11-08
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  euripides: White's opening, which goes by various names, represents an interesting alternative to the rather theorietcal main lines against the Leningrad Dutch, which would arise after after 6.c4 0-0 7.Nc3.
Mar-11-08   Avarus: <tpstar> It's apples and oranges here as white has many winning lines. I assigned "?!" to point out the move is a bit more complicated.
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