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Kenneth Rogoff vs Rudy Blumenfeld
"Beyond His Ken" (game of the day Jun-13-07)
Lone Pine (1976)  ·  English Opening: King's English Variation. General (A20)  ·  1-0
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Jun-13-07  lentil: i think black's big error was 21. .. c5. After the exchange of pawns, B no longer has a d-pawn and W just pushes through.
Jun-13-07  eaglewing: While 21. ... c5 does not look really pleasing to Black, it is one move that at least tries to free himself from passivity.

In addition, 23. ... Bb5 allows 24. d6, I don't see why Black has not played 23. ... fe 24. de Nxe5. No more connected d+e-pawns. If attacked by Bc3, Qd6 removes the pin and still defends the knight, so, what else is the White threat?

Jun-13-07
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  kevin86: The rook file was lethal for black. The mate threats cost black a load of time as well as the queen,neither of which he could afford.
Jun-13-07  weisyschwarz: I met Ken Rogoff when I was in high school, a year or so before this game. He offered a simultaneous exhibition, and after he beat me, as a consolation prize signed my chess openings book.

I agree that Blumenfeld's error was 21...c5, allowing the powerful pawn mob to push through.

Jun-13-07  dabearsrock1010: I'm not sure about the opening theory, but looking at the board after the tenth moves, I would much rather be playing white, it seems black did not develop with as much vigor as he should have
Jun-13-07  Zurahn: Why is this opening classified as A00 instead of A20?
Jun-13-07  capanegra: Rogoff is not only a GM, but he also made very important contributions on the field of economics. He teaches in Harvard.

http://www.economics.harvard.edu/fa...

If you go to his bio, in his personal biography you will be able to read about his relation with chess.

Jun-13-07  schnarre: Wonder if it was a Scottsman that thought up the pun...
Jun-13-07
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  fm avari viraf: <Giearth: BTW, Rudy Blumenfeld .....[AFAIK]> Will u please tell the full form of BTW & AFAIK.
Jun-13-07
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  fm avari viraf: I like this game as White conducted the whole game with some good tactics & beautifully exploited Black's weaknesses.
Jun-13-07
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  Chessmensch: <dabearsrock1010> I agree, only it's worse than that. Throughout nearly the entire game from move 18 on black has his pieces on the two back ranks. When he moves them off, they don't last long. Look at the game move-by-move.
Jun-13-07  Nasruddin Hodja: In addition to being a Hahvahd professor, Rogoff is also ex-Chief Economist of the IMF and gets a column on international economics published regularly in

http://www.projectsyndicate.org

So as if he didn't have it good enough, now _this_ website is buttering him up.

Jun-14-07  dabearsrock1010: <Chessmensch> thanks for pointing that out it is actually rather depressing to watch if you ask me lol.
Jun-14-07
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  Karpova: <FM Avari Viraf: Will u please tell the full form of BTW & AFAIK.> BTW = by the way
AFAIK = as far as I know
Jun-15-07
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  fm avari viraf: <Karpova> Thanks.
Jun-15-07
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  Gilmoy: totally unprepared are you
to face a world of men
hopeless and shy and scared are you
of <things beyond your ken> -- Rodgers & Hammerstein

you need rybka fritz and shredder
telling you what to do
-- some wag

Apr-02-09
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  johnlspouge: < <gprice> wrote: <think> after 27...Kf7 28. Qb3+ is lethal >

Just to expand:

27...Kxf7 28.Qb3+ Kf6 29.Ne6+

White wins Qd8 with 30.Nxd8.

Apr-03-09  Granny O Doul: Rather an ugly, materialistic finish. Nicer would have been 32.Bg5 Qh3 33.Bf6+! Kh7 34.Qh3+ Bh6 35.g5.
Apr-03-09  AnalyzeThis: Agreed.

Having said this, I myself would have used the same method of butchering black's position that Rogoff used. It's brutal, deadly, and simple.

Just win, baby.

Jun-10-10
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  OhioChessFan: I am stunned to discover 3 of 5 games in this database after 8. 0-0 have Black play Bf8. It hurts my eyes to look at that move.
Jun-10-10
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  OhioChessFan: <eaglewing: don't see why Black has not played 23. ... fe 24. de Nxe5. No more connected d+e-pawns. If attacked by Bc3, Qd6 removes the pin and still defends the knight, so, what else is the White threat?>

23...fxe5 24. dxe5 Nxe5 25. Nd3 and the pin down the e file decides.


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Oct-27-10  BwanaVa: ...but to continue Ohiochessfan...

if 25...Qd6 26.Nxe5 Rxe5 27.Rxe5 Qxe5 28. Bf4 skewers Queen and Rook

Sep-17-12  vinidivici: wow...
28.Ng6 is an unexpected move.
the aftermath is irrefutable for white.
Sep-17-12  Strongest Force: I knew both of these guys way back more than 40 years ago. I never knew they played each other although they were in NYC area. All the young players were going to Lone Pine to get titles.
Jun-27-13  gprice: < johnlspouge:> < <gprice> wrote: <think> after 27...Kf7 28. Qb3+ is lethal > Just to expand:

27...Kxf7 28.Qb3+ Kf6< 29.Ne6+ > 29. Ng6+ and mate

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